Wanna go out and meet some cute boys!

[Nicole]

eurogirl 3 months in bkk and you did not find any non p4p night clubs in a city of 10 million.
You must have really utilised this network of friends you have.
P4P for farangs is mainly in the 3 redlight zones of bkk, once you get out of those and away from sukumvit the thai suburbs eg bangna have thai orientated clubs with no fat farangs chasing BGs.

3 months in bkk and you never went to RCA ?

I think you are just provoking the happy good BMs here who in the most part respect thais and their culture

 

[Oscar911]

EGiT - think you may have misinterpreted intentions - thought was perhaps he was just the kind of guy you'd like to hook up with.

It was meant to read that HE is a BG dream (not that he was into P4P scene) - IF he's for real then he will most likley get eaten alive (in several respects) - just hope he meets some people who will show him the ropes or be genuinely looking for similar good times.

 

[Big D]

Well said Nicke, wich proves again you are a gentleman! :cheers:

 

[Kerozene]

I have qualified my comments. I was using the fat old farang thing more because that is what my female Thai friends say, it is kind of like saying BG's I guess. I have seen hot guys with these girls also, I know its not all old fat lonely guys, but proportionately that is why I think the thai girls say it and that has also been my observation.

I have also seen horrified people, Pattaya was the worst and I saw little boys, and I mean 12, being practically hit on and literally petrified. It is sad people are not warned, they shoudl be. I think if I had one complaint about Thailand it is that this aspect is kept pretty hidden from the family type tourist, I know this because I work in the tourism industry thus why I am in Thailand.

The aspect of liking Thai women for cultural exchange etc. I love thai men as well, so I do understand that. On the same token the attitude by some posters here that everyone has to love the p4p scene or they are judegemental is also wrong. It is also wrong to assume, as some posters have, that all red-blooded males would be jumping for joy to be around this, as I pointed out many do not like it for many reasons; some are scared of disease, some scared of the girls themselves due to their rather forward ways, and some just do not like asian women. I am all for live and let live, but that includes my right not to like it!

 

[SpencerT.]

Mikey,

Congratulations on having a girlfriend! I am duly impressed. She must be a real piece of work! uke:

As for what I wrote, I owe you no explanation! I have explained to those who I deemed worthy of an explanation. You are not among that number!

BTW, my gullible friend, who believes all he reads when it suits his purposes. I remind you that you told me that it was all in my head when you deemed that to be the best mode for an attack on me. Then you reversed ground and suddenly everything I said had to true when that suited your purposes.

You, Sir, are a duplicitous cad and a sneaky bastard, as well, since you waited and waited to post for hours late into the night in England, until I was off line, so that others could read your the tripe that your poisoned mind excretes, before I could respond to it.

I said it before and I will say it again. You have an unhealthy obssession with me, my friend. What is the truth? Why are you obsessed with me? Your attacks :complain: on me began well before any questionable posts on my part.

You say "she was taking the piss out of" me, whatever that means. Quite frankly, I have no idea, nor do I care to know your opinion. Nonetheless, what is this abiding interest that you have in my love life. You made that statement well before any of your current claims. Don't deny it. Don't be a liar as well as the sick bastard that you are! So what is this sick interest in my personal life, my friend! I could speculate, but I really don't care to insult you further, because the truth might hit too close to home.

For the record, as far as any actions on my part. My conscience is clear, because I did nothing wrong. The fact is that I always treated women with respect. I always have and always will. Admit it, that is one of the things that you dislike about me. The worst thing I did to a woman was the night I asked a woman who appeared to be ill to leave, because I didn't want to possibly have to pay her 2000 Baht in the morning as agreed upon, when I might not have sex with her at all. And I still feel bad about that. but was I criticized for that. Not one negative comment, and a number of posts that said I did the right thing to throw her out, that I was a very proper bastard to do so.

I have no 3-day rule. I have been criticized for being a romantic. I don't discard a woman the first time I might have feelings for her stir within me. I have been criticized for not dumping a woman that I liked. I have been criticized for buying drinks for her friends. I have been criticized for having a relationship at all. Guilty of breaking the 3-day rule! A heinous offense. I have been criticized for not being enough of a bastard! Guilty as charged my friend, and proud of it! Guilty of having a heart. :heart:

No one will ever accuse you of not being enough of a bastard. You are the bastard's bastard. A bastard supreme!

JayBee

 

[Jeitari]

Point taken Eurogirl, I sometimes question myself as to why i go thailand and pay for sex, however you have to understand that as ridiculous as this might sound you don't actually feel like a prostitutes customer.

Often if you stay with one lady for a longer period of time it feels more like a girlfriend experience and you will find that underneath the seedy exterior of the scene that most men crave comapionship here, myself included.

However the trick is not to fool yourself as deep down you know its a business transation and you will pay them for their time.

I was a little distubed by you other post that you would actually think the members here are not at all seemingly concerned about HIV.
I have to disagree and as a new member here you will not have witnessed that this subject regularly comes up again and again on the forum and other thai forums for that matter, all the other diseases are discussed in detail as well.

I can't say that all here wear a condom every time and i myself have slipped up on the odd occasion but in general i/we enevour to keep things as safe as possible, a lot of showers are taken in los - thai & farang which does help to keep things as clean as possible.

I had a test recently and was negative but the fear was very real for me so don't think we go there with a brazen attitude about this.

There are so many places you can go for a night out which does not involve the bg/lb scene or at least getting picked up on. Karaoke, bowling, a nice restaurant by the sea, whatever floats your boat really.

did you not try the Q bar in Bangkok ? If not, you should have. I sinceely hope you find the kinds of enjoyment you are looking for and not let something which seems trivial to us guys spoil your time in thailand.

But to be honest, in phuket you will find the scene far more relaxed and guys who pay for thai women very nice and decent people to know, i love phulet for its chilled out ambience and relaxed friendly atmosphere and i'm sure you could too.

 

[The Beckster]

Guys it is not about yes dearing me, I assure you. But thus far only one such post was pointed out to me as judgemental, and I would stand by that post as that is a strong opinion I have that shagging prostitutes should not be a father son activity. Not to mention if the boy did not want to he would also feel some pressure by the mere fact that his dad, his mentor, was encouraging it. What he wants to do on his own, and what dad wants to do, is up to them as individuals. But what if someone came on these boards and wanted to know where to find 14 year olds? Would you all react with non-judgemental posts if that particular thought offended your deepest morals? As said, I do not care what the boys wants to do with his mates, or what dad wants to do, it just should not be a father son activity.

In any event I hope through most of my other posts people have seen I am not some moralistic bitc*, as I am not. And I am all for dropping this issue.

 

[???GaGa Whisperer???]

Hmm ! Interesting posts the only thing I could add is good luck trying to find Strongbow or any other brand of cider in Patong if there is I have'nt found it yet !

 

[HotZone]

Do you really think its possible for a 19 y/o guy (that was how old the son was wasnt it) to go out in Patong and not be mobbed ?? So if he and his Dad go out its gonna be a reality..

Also you stated

Which is annoying as I had already done this, so you were not 'still waiting' you were just ignoreing what you dont want to hear. How you can interpret comments including 'disgusted' and "let me tell you something" etc as not being judgemental or moralising is hard for me to understand.

Anyway my last post on the issue.. You dont seem to hear what I am (in a friendly way) trying to say and point out.

 

[s0LuT1oN]

I do know butterflyblone that you pay for their companionship etc. I think many men who blow tons of money are just lonely nice guys looking for companionship. If I told you I felt worse for the guys than the girls would you believe me? Because I often do. In Sweden we have a law that punishes men for buying prostitutes but completely pardons the prostitute for selling on the premise that "women are forced into it" BOLLOCKS! Not in practically communist sweden if so its time for us to get rid of the socialist bastards. I am pro legalised prostitution, I may not understand it, but I do not judge it. I think both parties benefit, often the woman more because her objective is money, the mans is often love, caring, and relations he does not otherwise have in his life, so when the "relationship" dissolves, she walks away with something, he does not but for a memory. So do not worry about me being judgemental.

As for the HIV thing, I noticed a thread that scared the hell out of me and many guys talking about slip ups, purposely not using condoms etc. Moreso than anywhere else it really REALLY is russian roullette here. I had my own scare after a night with a rather rough but hot 18 year old thai guy I pulled...he did not even speak english and my thai was not too good then so it was purely physical, so I am not one to judge others!

But again, my concern is legitimate concern for those coming here. I KNOW a German who nonchalantly went about his BG business and then had a broken condom, and got HIV here. I have also heard several other stories though I do not know those guys, and I have only been here a few months.

Q Bar is great! I have lots of places I like here in BKK and am sure I will also find many in Phuket. It was never that I could not or did not enjoy myself it was that a lot of the casual non Q Bar type places, in other words normal beach bar type bars, unfortunately are ONLY geared to p4p action and even when I have gone with other girls, the welcome is not there. Especially if the girls see you as competition.

 

[Danniella]

Im very happy you are dropping the debate. There are only so many ways you can say the same thing. Its a pity you that you have posted so much yet you only seem to value your own opinion and disregard everyone else

'Know it all' springs to mind

G

 

[. .]

Thanks all, firstly I post like mad because I am stuck indoors by my computer most of the time, writing is my job! So yes, I also feel attacked and outnumbered so I have been trying to keep up so as not to be just drowned away as I presume many female posters are.

Tack fِr rهdet Nicke. Jag kommer absolut att hنlsa pه iaf. I will also say I feel VERY comfortable around just Thais have no problem whatsoever and even prefer to be around all Thais (the guys are just sooo cute)!

LivinLos, statistics are misleading, but the hiv stats for thailand are pretty true and it is for the reasons I mentioned in other posts. I also think another thing you need to consider is that hiv takes years to show signs of disease, so many on the scene won't show a symptom for over a decade now. There may well be bars as well that have 0 hiv positive girls then others with 10 to compensate the numbers, so I think again there are many variable. It is all just a question of keeping safe!

 

[Ja Sm]

What a shame.. When I was last looking at this thread I thought it was taking an interesting turn on having an attempt at defining who is or isnt 'prostitutes' in the scene / life here..

As stated way back its such a grey area and covers so many relationships and creates so much confusion.. For example (and I am sure he wont mind me saying this) Marc26 has his Pattaya Princess, and is wondering how to deal with a woman who he is not paying and is financially independant and pays her own drinks.. I think guessing by her 'day job' many would put her firmly in the 'working girl' camp yet to marc26 she isnt (again sorry for using your life as an exmaple mate).. So is it Marc26's charms ?? Is she an 'opportunist' ?? Has she met someone she want to make some life changes with ?? Etc.. Marc even posted for others comments on 'a girl like this'...

Look at relationships like my own.. My girl was a 'dancer' in Samui, certainly a lower traffic profession than working bar but I dont try to kid myself.. Lets put her in the opportunist camp.. Where else would I get nearly no hassle for sending her back to her room for a night so I can have a pool party and girls on the side ?? So is that prostitution (giving her a pocket money allowance and a lifestyle she would not normally have) or is it purely inequality of relationships here or what ??

As for the slagging match that follows.. So what ?!?!? just for the record.. I am a slut !!! If I could get paid for it I would as well.. Lets face it.. You got it.. You sell it.. You still got it.. What a business plan !!!

 

[Soprano Girl]

LivinLos it is quite funny you bring up that a 19 year old would be mobbed as I used that to explain why young guys may be put off as I know many who were and found the bar girls agressive and, their words not mine, "scary". Yet when I said that I was also attacked on that.

But I have alreadys said that I certainly think it is MY judgement and in that sense that ONE post was judgemental but as I pointed out I think most people on Earth would agree that visiting prostitutes should not be a father son activity. I also asked how most of you would react if some bloke came here asking about how to pull 14 year olds. The reason I used that example is to give another type of example that also has a moral and ethical element as many of you are staunch supporters of the bg scene and not likely to be so objective on this particular post as criticising it may in some way imply there is something wrong with indulging in the services of bg's. While I will reiterate I could care less either way am not bothered by what men I do not know do with their bodies nor what girls do with theirs, I do not think that condoning father/son bonding by visiting hookers is right! Even among some of the posters here when I did finally, the first person to do so, say that, several people agreed and these people themselves visit bgs.

Another poster was met with a bit of disdain when he even brought up age of consent issues, I was actually more liberal on that than many of you here. Every post is a personal judgement when an opinion is involved and this ONE post was certainly mine but to say that I post judgemental posts based on that post and based on the circumstances I responded to is not right.

 

[Sunny]

First off dizzbusta you preface your message with how I will not read nor understand your post, I would assert you neither read nor understood my post. You also talk about how I am not able to join in with the "camraderie" of the board. If you mean the camraderie based on enjoying and swapping war stories and advice on the bg scene then you are quite right! As a woman I do not think any woman would be able to join in on that camraderie as I cannot sit and talk about which bar girl I like best, where the best are, which one jumped my **** etc. If I could I would not be a woman, so if you are trying to shape an exclusive club on this board which rules out anyone that is looking for other sorts of nightlife in Phuket then your definition of camraderie goes a long way toward achieving that end.

I would disagree, however judging from the number of pms I get and great conversations I have here in pms as well as adding what I can when appropriate such as discussing the perils of sex in Thailand, which I can relate to, and finding places to stay etc.

I am not going to nor do I want to change your mind, you are entitled to your opinion. At the same time I still think you grossly misunderstand my post on the issue at hand with the Dad/son bg post. You can call me judgemental but a great many people would agree that visiting prossies should not be a father/son endeavor. I again posed the question as to how many of you would react if someone came on here looking for advice on 14 year olds, as I think it is the best example of how many of you would also offer your morality to a situation on a thread. I am not about to sit and say, atta boy, to any parent that enquires as to bringing their son somewhere with the intent of procuring the services of a prostitute, if that makes me contentious, judgemental, and not part of the boards "camraderie" then so be it, but I reckon the vast majority of the world would agree with that stance.

 

[Nyx]

lol

 

[Question Man]

Hey Mikey,

Where's that sense of humor, Mikey. Why so glum? Life is a blast! Join the party.

Tell us a joke, Mikey. Where is the old the fabled Dirty Mike sense of humor? You can do it, Mikey. We are all rooting for you to make a comeback! :cheergal: :cheergal: :cheergal: :cheergal:

I'll try to see of I can help you. Think FARTS! Come on, Mikey. That is your specialty. You must have a good fart joke that you haven't used lately. C'mon, Mikey old pal, old bastard. We don't believe you're over the hill yet. Just go to the bathroom, sit on the toilet and do what you do best(if you did it before you posted, it would save us listening to a load of shite! ). I'm sure if you apply yourself properly, you can get that devilish mind putting out the gas again. Think FARTS, Mikey. It is your specialty! FARTS!

Your fan :biggrinlo and helpful friend,

JayBee

 

[mbrcatz]

Eurogirl........when you say you love thailand and thaistyle, you must also remember that the bargirls and the barscene is a part of a long tradition. And prostitution have been around in Thailand long time before any farang arrived here. And even today there are much more prostitution between thaipeople then it ever will be between thaipeople and farangs.
But good luck for you in Patong, and i think you will feel more comfortable here than in Bangkok.

Geir

 

[Missa]

Your another hypocrite by the way :aao: Your just a little twirp who thinks he's so much better than everybody else because he has a GF and does not to sleep with BGs, Of whom you believe are being degraded by all who go to los and indulge in it, Yet you slept with prostitutes on a trip to europe with your mates??? Your morals are so much better :thumbsdow And I could go on...and on...and on....

And another thing how the f*ck did you age from 19 to 29 in the matter of a month or was that a day :aan:

 

[TheDeathMessage]

er.... Yes dear

Sorry.. but what else could I say