Procedure in FKK (and camcorders)

[Nyx]

Not sure this is the case in all FKKs.

In the ones around Frankfurt, in particular the 3 big ones (World, Oase and Palace), the barkeepers and the cleaning ladies are not naked.

Some FKKs of the NRW area (Golden Time, Samya, Planet Happy Garden, Sudbad) don't have naked girls (in PHG, girls are not even topless).

Jim

 

[ck4829]

Hi just a few practical questions I could not find the answer for on this site:

1. Where do you put your clothes? Is it the same locker as the one for your valuables? Is there also room for a backpack?
2. Are there many showers? Are they clean? Is it possible to take a shower together with a girl?
3. About RLD (maybe should have posted in another thread): how dangerous is it? Are the stories about scammers and flatheads with pitbulls true (I mean in private flats not in bars)? Is it an everyday thing there or just really bad luck? What about hygiene there? What is the exposure to being robbed / hurt in the RLD? Is it safe during daytime? Does life start here before noon?

Thanks a lot for any info on these.

Lefo

PS: I am also interested on action in Wiesbaden. Anyone having any info?

 

[katie l]

Don't worry, 1 mio German men (and quite a few women) use legal prostitution facilities every day with no problems...The FKK Swinger resort I used to manage with my ex and all others I know did NOT allow cameras for the privacy of all involved. However we advertised camera days once every month which were the busiest. Exhibitionist females and couples and shutmassageplanet.netugs alike loved them, even the media would show up, like porno producers scouting for fresh talent. Check around, esp places of the "model" variety. Be prepared to pay extra though. Germany has a law guaranteeing one's right to one's image and likeness. -- PM me for more info

 

[zangmo315]

Outcall is rarely available from FKK clubs, but overnight stays are.

PM me for details

 

[Lucy C]

Luggage lockers/check available at all German airports and train stations.

Or let a local guide you. PM for details

 

[Mallie]

Hi!
I'm an American, born and raised in the German Rhineland. Living in the USA since 1968, I never got over the hangups and restrictions American society has about sex in general and prostitution specifically. Now retired I will return home.

I have travelled and lived all over the world in my professional life and sampled the local mongering commerce in many countries. But nowhere is the scene as hightly perfected, varied and economical as in Germany. Read here and elsewhere on mpnet about the endless possibilties to get laid in Germany for affordable fees and in safety, style, total hygiene and cleanliness (all women are regularly checked by doctors).

My personal favorites are the many 'FKK-Clubs' (= nudist clubs) that started springing up in the 1980s and now are all over the place, especially in the Rhineland. I actually was the general manager of one of the biggest German FKK-Clubs for a year with my second wife (who was a German porn star I had met in Hollywood and dragged me back home). It had an indoor swimming pool, sauna, bar and dining room, private and open play rooms, as well as rambling outdoor areas with lawns, groves and even a fish pond.

A millionare's former mansion, it was so photogenic that we could even rent it out as shooting location for many porno and legit movie and TV productions.

FKK (= Frei Koerper Kultur = free body culture) means that everybody is naked, the staff (~18~28 yo), the guests, the barkeeps, even the cleaning ladies (shy guests may wear robes or bath towels). So you can inspect, even fondle the 'merchandise' before you book any services.

The prices are fixed and surprisingly low. No haggling. No 'dry hustle', no pushing ladydrinks. Actually drinks and good food is included in the price of admission (Eu/US~$25~60) and a session with a girl will only cost another Eu/US$~25~60. Some FKK-Clubs actually just charge a flat rate of (Eu/US$80-120) and one can indulge in as many sessions with the staff as one wishes (Bring Viagra.- One of them is 'Asiahouse' in Siegen, staffed with >20 Chinese and Thai girls. Many more of this genre exist, just do a search with the keyword 'Pauschalclub').

Most of the girls are actually Eastern European: Russians, Poles, Czech, Bulgarians, Ukrainians ect who work here a few years and return home as wealthy ladies. There are of course also a good percentage of German Fraeuleins.

These women are here on their own free will and are treated with fairness, respect and dignity. Club operators cannot afford losing any staff and treat them accordingly (I know, I was in charge of HR too as general manager of one).

Pimping and trafficing are the only aspects of prostitution that actually are illegal in Germany and this is strictly enforced even against husbands living off their wives' prostitution income.

In any case, I wish to introduce as many people to this amazing experience in the interest of freedom of expression and sexual liberation. Actually I write 'people' because it is not a 'no-no' to bring a wife or GF. Many clubs are actual and legit swingers' clubs where couples and non-professional ladies are welcomed and party for free, no participation required or expected. Their motto is: 'Alles kann, nichts muss!' = Anything can happen, but nothing must happen.

My planned concept is to guide small groups of 2-8 around my old stomping grounds in the Frankfurt-Cologne-Duesseldorf-Essen-Aachen pussy triangle. I'll provide local knowledge, transportation, consultation and translation (many people in this scene do not speak English!). If desired I will arrange for accomodations at decent, modern, economical hotels (no sense to waste $$$ on sleeping). Guide services will start and end at the airport.

The estimated cost for a week of classy, safe, legal mongering in Germany, including 2-3 sex sessions a day, airfare from USA, ground transport by spacious luxury van (minibus), guide services, hotel, food, gasoline ect should cost no more than about US$2000.- for a week to ten days, but can be lowered even more if meals are only taken at the hotels (breakfast is usually included in German hotel rates) and clubs. Some FKK-Clubs offer free or inexpensive overnight stays. I'm even considering to rent a full size motorhome for the group which should lower accomodations cost significantly.

Compare that with the rip-off prices, for instance, of Nevada brothels, illegal escort and 'massage' services in the USA (with their added risk of blundering into vice stings), or those extravagantly overpriced sex resorts in the Caribbean staffed and run by Russians. As the prices rise and service and safety decline in 3rd world countries like Thailand or Brazil this is definitely the better deal (air fares are a big cost factor too!).

Actually mongering costs in Germany are going down. They are now lower than 30 years ago! This is due to the huge influx of East European hookers and the increased competition among clubs, brothels, escort services, freelancers, even Autobahn whores in motorhomes.

Best travel time is summer, but June 8 ~ July 8 will be very busy in 2006 because of the FIFA asoccer word cup. On the other hand why not combine soccer and sex? The country will be buzzing with foreign pussy eager to earn some Euros.

In any case, if anybody is interested send me a private message. I'm rearing to go. Try to line up at least one other buddy so I can get groups together quicker. But I'll just as happily be your private guide if you can afford the expense.

BTW: During wintertime (Nov-Apr) Thailand is still my favorite mongering ground and I will maybe offer similar services there if this project works out.

BTW 2: smoking is usually no problem at clubs. --

Gummibear



See, my friends:

 

[whoever this is]

Best to get somebody with local knowledge!
Hi!
I'm an American, born and raised in the German Rhineland. Living in the USA since 1968, I never got over the hangups and restrictions American society has about sex in general and prostitution specifically. Now retired I will return home and try to guide foreign mongers around this pussy paradise.

In any case, if anybody is interested send me a private message.


Gummibear

 

[Mr. Fix It]

Let’s face it boys, trying to find these clubs is difficult if you are unprepared. Here’s how I would describe how to get to World. Follow these directions to the letter:

Head to the motorway junction called “Gambacher Kreuz” at the corner of the A45 and the A5. This lies between Giessen and Frankfurt. If you are coming up from Frankfurt then you need do nothing when you reach it, just keep going. If you are coming from the north then you need to turn left at this junction, but the problem is, they do not let you do this. Therefore stay on the A45, go past the “Gambacher Kreuz”, get off at the next “Ausfahrt”, do a U-turn and come back up the A45 and turn right at the “Gambacher Kreuz”. By the way, “Kreuz” means “cross”, as in crossroads.

So now you are on the A5 heading north, just north of the “Gambacher Kreuz”. Look for the kilometer markers posted every

 

[parijatha]

Got some benefits from this site. Thought to share my 2 cents. Been to palace recently. I am like tom soyer in a candy store. It is amazing. You should all go to FKK once. It is much more relaxed than eros center type. Girls' attitude much better in the afternoon, especially weekdays. But overall, most are very decent all the time. Some say Oase is even much better in terms of girls' look. In Palace, there is a mexican-german mixed girl very sexy and a polish curly blonde Katie very nice. The first girl has a big and deep pussy and I still remember the warmth and moister when I dined there for half an hour. I can dive my face there. Of course YMMV. Avoid a cuban whore with long black hair. She promises everything but then plays the tricks of those whores in Eros centers and perform nothing. East European girls are the best looking and have the best attitude. Stay with them. Have fun!

Tom

 

[traveller]

Hey everyone....I'm going to be visiting Frankfurt around xmas and was curious if Palace or any of the other FKK's are nearby the Hauptbahnof (main train station...near the red light district). That's basically where my hotel is. If not, can anyone recommend places to try out that are close by to there?

I've been to Frankfurt multiple times, but didn't even know about this FKK business and haven't ventured into the red light district before...so this will be my first outing.

My understanding so far on the FKK is that you pay a entrance fee (75EUR?) and each 1/2 hr session with a girl is 50EUR. Is that right?

Thanks in advance for the info...cruised the palace website and those girls are hot! Looking fwd to it.

p.s. By the way....what is the std practice as it relates to protection (i.e. condoms). Must wear? Optional? Girls tested in order to work there? Not sure I would even go bareback (scared of VD), but just curious.

 

[Armyn]

Thanks a lot for the reply. It is very helpful

 

[Taniya A]

Tom,
cos your time is short, you might be better take a cab from airport - cost 25 euro and takes 15 mins. By train - you need to take 3 trains and all that will take nearly an hour and still cost about 5 - 10 euro.

I dont think you can store your case in Palace, it certainly wont fit in the locker. YOu could call Palace about this.

Palace opens at 10 am and there is no happy hour.

hope this helps.

 

[sk8erboy]

Tosc,

Could you please tell me how I can go to palace with public transportation from FRA airport? How long does it take? I arrive on Dec 14 early morning and leave for another city by train in the afternoon from airport. Can I go in the morning? I will bring a suitecase. Is there anywhere I can rent something to store it at the airport or should I bring to the club? Is there any happy hour lower entrance fee on certain days?

Thanks a lot.

Tom

 

[nykkibabyyy]

Holland
http://www.badda-bing.nl/

Belgium
http://www.ritzclubbing.be/main.php?item=1&lang=en

Not yet been to either.

But Palace in Frankfurt is one of the best FKKs you could want to visit. On good nights (and Autumn is the best time of year) it is close to heaven on earth. It's not that new. It also has the advantage for visitors that it is relatively close and an affordable taxi ride from the airport or rail station. Good value Ibis hotel just round the corner. Very much recommended.

http://www.the-palace.de/index_en.php
Tosc

 

[LilMissRainbow]

TOSCANA.
Any info as to where are these places in HOLLAND and BELGIUM
Have heard of a mew place "PALACE" nr/ Frankfurt...any info

 

[jayR]

It very rarely happens that a girl will meet you outside the club.

I know little about mongering in Switzerland, but I do not think there are FKKs. FKKs rely on a legal structure in Germany not always importable into other countries. That said, there is one in Vienna, Austria (good, but more expensive), at least one in Holland (not tried), a new one in Belgium (not tried) and one in Prague, Czech Rep (good, and well-priced).

 

[Giovanna]

yo man thanks for all the info i've been to the Termas in brazil and i guess its almost the same set up as the FKK but as par as pricing they are kinda high for Brazil prices but cheap in american standards, the FKK sites i been checkin out look marvelous and super professional i even called a couple, is it possible too hook up with these chicks for an after session also and whats the price on that,another question do u know anything about the FKK in switzerland??? peace and thanks..............

 

[Schrei!]

I cannot compare Brazil with Germany either. Sadly.

On pricing, it is generally cheaper in the area around Cologne/D

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Hi fellow mongers. I'm heading for a long awaited trip to Germany, have work to do near Schweinfurt. Any info on places to go, advice, etc. will be much appreciated. Thanks!

 

[Bigz]

Hi KingofCrunk

In FKK you pay 65 Euros entry and then 50 Euros for every half hour session commenced. Extras like swallowing cost an additional 50, and extras like anal are negotiable but you should reckon on about 150 Euros extra. The room is free, along with food, soft drinks, sauna, showers etc. Re-entry into the clubs is allowed provided you keep your tag on.

Regarding your question about what is better, Brazil or FKK, well, I haven't been to Brazil but I have heard it said that the best three places in the world for this hobby of ours are Bangkok, Brazil and the Frankfurt area of Germany. I think Toscana should be able to give us his three pennies worth on this one.

Kingwenslas