One bar - one girl?

[Fontofall]

That's number is for France, not EU. Heard it here:

YouTube - Muslim Demographics

I don't know if their numbers are completely accurate, but the numbers they give for US, Canada, and other countries do seem to jive with the UN and CIA data. And I have already long since heard that birth rates in EU countries were below 2.0, so that seems consistent, as well.

 

[Ladybugs]

Here's the UN and CIA numbers. Followed by a chart that is a good graphic/visual depiction, showing the situation at a glance.

List of countries and territories by fertility rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Countries in blue have low birth rates, countries in green have medium birth rates(flat or a bit of positive growth), other colors have high birth rates.

 

[jhig78]

you've spoilt my dessert!

 

[2cold scorpio]

another thought, if you do go with different girls from the same bar, pay them the same, they talk and it's a face thing if one gets more than the other, may avoid problems down the track.
but i think it's better not to do it, have personally done it, and awoke the next morning in bg's room with her room mate sitting next to the bed with knitting needles and a knife next to the bed looking at me.

btw she was knitting and the knife for the fish, but a very nervous awaking that morn.

 

[Rhymhey]

Ah yes, the fruity boob fixation........there is treatment Nels! 555555

I've shagged around a bit as well and as others have said, the only country I've had the 'follow up' and suggestions of a relationship other than, and additional to getting my leg over is.........Thailand.

I don't do the 'If looks could kill stare' from the girl in the bar who I took the night before if I walk into that bar again and chose to sit with another girl. Up to me as far as I am concerned. It's over, it was great, she got paid, I've moved on!

Should I wish to progress a relationship with any particular girl then it will be my choice, at my pace and when I want to and something I shouldn't really have to sit and 'explain' to someone I am looking to simply have sex with. That's the way it is in Thailand, better get used to it. People deal with that in their own way.

That's the difference to me. Anywhere else I have sought P4P 'no strings attached' sex the girls know I am just another paying punter. Leg over, money exchanged..........Out the door, count her money. I've usually had as much of a laugh with these girls as I have had with a Thai girl over the period of a night and a couple of shags!

In Thailand they always seem to think there is potential for that 'little bit more' and it can spoil it for me sometimes but.......Good luck to them but I'd rather not have to navigate through all that 'sincere' and often spun BG mullarkey and to get to the end result..........me getting my rocks off and her with my money in her purse!

If the 'sincerety, I lub you, you're "special" buttons they press works for you, go for it. I just see it as a means to an end and wish they would just stick to taking my money and giving me a shag for it! Bust!

 

[Walking by faith]

Yes, and that stat is for France, where a lot of the Muslim immigrants are from Africa. By and large, with the exception of Afghanistan, many of the countries with the highest birth rates are in West Africa, esp. the Saharan states, Mali, Niger, and Chad, the coastal states of Mauritania, Senegal, Guinea, and Cote d"Ivoire, plus Burkina Faso, all of which are former French colonies, and predominantly Muslim.

 

[Love my Mutts!!!]

Based on List of countries and territories by fertility rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia no country in the world has a fertility rate over 8. Let alone 8.1.

Maybe - or maybe not - muslim families in Europe have higher rates than back home in say Turkmenistan (2.76 and declining) or Iran (2.72 at its highest in 1980-1985 and declining World Population Prospects: 2006 ... - Google Boeken) but I dont see any reason or evidence that in France, or in Belgium or Holland for that matter, the fertility rate is really 8.1

So: demagogue talk. And absolutely bulls**t that in 16 years time Belgium or the Netherlands will have a muslim majority.
Stop believing it. And stop spreading it.

 

[Mike P]

no rule...its just easier not to in case anything kicks off..plenty of bars and clubs in Patong

 

[PLAYBOY]

That's true and I wonder why that is?

 

[imamidnightlover]

i agree with the others that this is wrong. most or many of the girls in LOS are trying to better their lives and find someone, rather than make it a life choice



It's bizarre how it only seems to be Thailand BG's that have this attitude. i think prostitute (although it is what they are doing) is the wrong word for them, they must be more like entertainers if anything. they certainly share their emotions more and are looking for long term relationships (some multiple 555)

thus far in some of the places i've been, jakarta, moscow, dubai, baku, tblisi, etc.. i've never ever gotten any BS like that (running emotions). Only in Thailand will you get grief for taking a working girls friend / colleague.

 

[OwlTotem]

Although there's no real "rule," you should probably do yourself a favor and not barfine more than one girl from each bar. It really is easier that way.

 

[Theandysullivan]

That is correct. no country in the world has a fertility rate of over 8. Nor did I state that any country did have a rate of 8. Get your facts straight. There are a couple countries over 7.0., however, and guess what? They are Muslim countries.

I have not idea what the Muslim fertility rate is in Belgium or the Netherlands, but I think it is safe to assume that it is higher that the rates for non-Muslims, which are low. Also, ongoing immigration is a factor in the increasing proportion of the population, which is Muslim. And this is not the first time that I have heard that the Netherlands will one day be a Muslim nation, so, apparently, that info is coming from more than one source.

Not all Muslim states have high fertility rates. The former Soviet states, the North African states, and also Iran are have more moderate rates.


Well, there are things that could happen in the next 15 to 40 years, which could alter the trends. But, if trends continue as they are, and there is no indication yet that they won't, then the EU will end up being a majority Muslim, if not in 15 or 40 years, then at a later date. When you have declining non-Muslim birth rates, and high Muslim birth rates, plus continued Muslim immigration, then it is inevitable, unless they stop being Muslims, and it doesn't look like that is likely to happen. It is possible that their birth rates won't always be so high in the 2nd and 3rd generations living in Europe, but that would likely mean more immigration from the Muslim countries, IMHO, as birth rates are not the only factor influencing this somewhat amazing, and to some, shocking phenomenon.

You sound like you are awfully threatened by the truth. It may not be what a lot of people who like to think was happening, but facts are facts, and it is difficult to avoid seeing the implication of them.

BTW, I have no agenda to push or axe to grind here. I live in the US, which is not very much affected by Muslim immigration, but mainly by Latino immigration, and they are Christians. I was very surprised when I first heard of this Muslimization phenomenon, a year or two ago, and view it only as a fascinated, objective outside observer.

 

[Mike J]

And I did some more fact finding:

In 2004, the share of muslims in the Ducth society was 5.8%. (Statistics Netherlands, CBS StatLine - Bevolking; Islamieten en hindoes in Nederland, 1 januari)

Now you do the math yourself: what fertility rate do you need for the muslims to become a majority between 2004 and 2025 (i.e., 16 years from now), assuming that the fertility rate of everyone else is, say... 1.8? Or 1.7... I dont care.
And assuming that all girls will all become pregnant for the first time at 18 years old. Or 16... I don't care.
And assuming that they all will give birth every 12 months. Or even 9 months... I dont care.

Its stunning fertility rate, right? 20? 30? More? It cant be 30... coz there are only 21 years between 2004 and 2025, and with 9 months between every child she can only have 28 or 29 children or so. Only? Well, yes, only.
:meuh:

 

[Shadyfan7]

now, i have never been involved in those places
do they offer just as good of a GFE?

 

[geyamala ?????? ??? ????]

If you are like me and enjoy frequenting one bar a lot......then I wouldn't do it.
I enjoy going to MTB almost every night, even it it is just for 1 or 2 drinks.
I have been with girls from MTB in the past but never more than 1 girl per trip.
Because I like the bar so much I do not want to do anything that could cause any problems for anyone working there.

And when you consider Patong as a whole.....as Nelsonone says.......there are plenty of bars and clubs where you can meet other girls.

And as Nicke says....it is your holiday and your money so you can do what you want......but you must be prepared for what may happen as a result.

 

[Pompal 09.]

Probably a smart thing to do (to only go with one girl from the same bar),

But maybe you never explained to the girls that you're just a butterfly and that you have no intention of taking a girl to your hotel for more than 1 night.

I always do that even if I don't think I'm gonna return to the bar I'm at, especially gogo's. Works like a charm. I've barfined 3-4 different girls from the same gogo in Pats, sometimes I took one girl on numerous occations. They would always be happy to see I'm back to the bar, this way. At least that's what it seems like. I usually ask that too.. in case I'll return.

 

[Crimson]

Currently in LOS and over the last 8 days have taken 5 girls from the same bar (not necessarily on 5 days).
I think the girls attitudes in this regard is a reflection of the bar managers ability to control and direct his/her staff.

 

[bebe27]

I dunno! What's your take on it?

Why does Olga from the Volga in Dubai want my Money and No Strings attached Sex. Ideally, she could do without the sex bit but I always insist! I am guessing she has the same 'over heads' as anyone else, is sending money home for the education of her kids by a Russian ex-husband and yadder, yadder, yadder. Same old, same old.

Why does 'Nong' (I made that up BTW) want to move in with me thirty seconds after I have walked into the bar having never seen me before? Of course I know the answer as you do.

I was saying I prefer to bypass the 'wedding bells' nonsense and go straight to the sex bit and tomollow I will see her mate Nung! (Made that one up as well) without her thinking we are an old married couple after one night of paid for sex!

Over to you!

 

[mysticduder]

more a reflection of a punters' ability to take off the RTGs? 'i might hurt her feelings if i go with her colleague because she might have liked me beyond the money i paid her'????????

without being a cold idiot, customer is(should be) boss if prostitute 1 is annoyed so what as long as prostitute 2 still wants to go with punter?

avoiding hassle is one thing

being a spineless pussy will just mean attracting far more problems imho

 

[hellokity017]

Yes, I can see that Olga from the Volga in Dubai is there just for the money. As is Nang from Mae Tang in Paris. Earning her money and sending that home.

The point is that Olga in Volgograd is not interested in the ‘potential for that little bit more’, nor is Maria in Brazil. But Nang in Thailand is.

I am not sure why Thai in the p2p business are interested beyond their trade. Is it because p2p is more acceptable, and giving less feelings about guilt and sin to Thai than it is to Europeans and Americans?