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Personally I have not returned...but as of last week there is a post in this thread saying things were happening nicely there.

Have you been to this place? How do you know what options are better and why? Realistically, with the number of rub & tug places operating in the open all over the island of Manhattan, what are the specific odds of this place getting busted? What's the basis for the paranoia here? Someone saw a cruiser outside the joint on a Friday night? People think the location is too high traffic?

This thread is full of speculative judgmental bullshit.
 
Yes Otis, I understand, but when was the last time you had an extraordinary experience here and with who? My point is that there are many other places in the same neighborhood that have CONSISTENT awesome service and beautiful girls. Unless this place has Sophia Vergara or Angelina Jolie working here I would rather go elsewhere. So my point would be why take the chance here if there are so many better options? An old monger proverb goes like this ... "better safe than sorry!". I'm just sayin'.
 
LE eventually makes the rounds to most spas...most of the time they close for a day "no hot water" and reopen. It could happen anywhere.
 
Actually, some us us had out of the ordinary experiences at this place - a number of guys including myself have reported that they had exceptionally good times. The service may not be consistent but it's at least sporadically outstanding. There are a number of incredibly enthusiastic posts in this thread - read it thoroughly...
 
Whether paranoia or not, if this place is nothing special, why take the risk? There are plenty of great places nearby that aren't mentioned like this one. And if LE does happen to have it in for this place I would rather be somewhere else. Besides if I ever get caught with my pants down it will be with a real hottie asian girl not one of these.
 
Thanks for that. With the sixth precinct in Suffolk County shut down, I know where not to go.

SG
 
@ SG Busts dont happen? Read on... 34th st is not sacred...




The Suffolk County Police Department’s Sixth Precinct Crime Section conducted an undercover investigation into illegal activities at massage parlors during the past eight months and arrested more than two dozen people at massage parlors located in the Sixth Precinct.



Arrested during Operation Massage Parlor were:



? Chun X. Wang, 32, of 143-08 Oak Ave., Flushing, was charged with Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at the White Gold Spa, located at 875 Horseblock Road, Farmingville.

? Lili Xie, 35, of 14220 Franklin Ave. Apt 7T, Flushing, was charged with Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at SPA 856, located at 856 Portion Road, Ronkonkoma.

? Hong W. Pan, 45, of 132-25 Pople Ave., Flushing, was charged with Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at SPA 856, located at 856 Portion Road, Ronkonkoma.

? Yan H. Zheng, 26, of 142-36 Franklin Ave., Flushing, was charged with Prostitution and Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at Hawaiian Relaxation Spa, located at 20 Dawn Drive, Centereach.

? Shi Min Fan, 53, undomiciled was charged with Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at Foot Reflexology, located at 1442 Middle Country Road, Centereach.

? Naihun Sun, 47, of 42-45 Kissena Blvd. Apt 5F, Flushing, was charged with Prostitution and Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at Hawaiian Relaxation Spa, located at 20 Dawn Drive, Centereach.

? Young Hee Jung, 48, of Flushing, was charged with Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at Pine Tree Spa, located at 2433 Route 25, Centereach.

? Yunxia Qi, 46, of 134-29 57th Road, New York, was charged with Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at Day Spa, located at 4400 Route 347, Port Jefferson Station.

? Aihua Zheng, 51, of 53-08 90th St. Apt 3B, Elmhurst, was charged with Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at Health and Diet Center American Practice for Wellness, located at 60 North Country Road, Suite 104, Port Jefferson.

? Fang Zeng, 38, of 1824 College Point Blvd., College Point, was charged with Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at Natural Health Spa, located at 842 Portion Road, Ronkonkoma.

? Liping Geng, 49, of 46-41 Smart St., Flushing, was charged with Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at Jasmine Garden Spa, located at 2460 Route 347, Stony Brook.

? Shuzhen Lui, 45, of 123-15 26th Ave., Flushing, was charged with Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at Jasmine Garden Spa, located at 2460 Route 347, Stony Brook.

? Qing Ling Wang, of 45, of 123-15 26th Ave., Flushing, was charged with was charged with Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at Jasmine Garden Spa, located at 2460 Route 347, Stony Brook..

? Shuzhen Lui, 45, 123-15 26th Ave., Flushing, was charged with Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at Jasmine Garden Spa, located at 2460 Route 347, Stony Brook.

? Liping Geng, 49, of 46-41 Smart St., Flushing, was charged with Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at Jasmine Garden Spa, located at 2460 Route 347, Stony Brook.

? Kun Bai, 50, Standford Ave., Flushing, was charged with was charged with Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at Relaxation Spa, located at 130 Middle Country Road, Middle Island.

? Xiaoxiu Li, 47, Flushing, was charged with Prostitution and Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at Relaxation Spa, located at 130 Middle Country Road, Middle Island.

? Yun Xia Li, 21, of 42-11 Sanford Ave Flushing was charged with Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at Relaxation Day Spa, located at 3663 Route 112, Coram.

? Liu He, 48, 151-09 34th St. Apt 3E, Flushing, was charged with Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at Natural Health Spa, located at 514 Route 25, Middle Island.

? Han Sojun, 31, Franklin Street, Flushing, was charged with Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at Natural Health Spa, located at 514 Route 25, Middle Island.

? Juan Lin, 25, undomiciled, was charged with was charged with two counts Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at Hawaiian Relaxation Spa, located 20 Dawn Drive, Centereach.

? Fuling Li, 54, of Flushing, was charged with Prostitution and Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at Best Relax Spa, located at 648-5 Horseblock Road, Farmingville.

? Chunxia Wang, 33, of 143-08 Oak Ave., Farmingville, was charged with Prostitution and Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at Grace Spa, located at 875 Horseblock Road, Farmingville.

? Xue Mei Che, 45, of 356 Sagamore Drive, Rochester, was charged with Prostitution and Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at Hawaiian Relaxation Spa, located at 20 Dawn Drive, Centereach.

? Hui F. Tian, 48, of 92-53 51st Ave., Elmhurst, was charged with Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at Acupressure Center Spa, located at 200 Route 25, Middle Island.

? Yan Yan He, 48, of 137-75 Geranium Ave. 1M, Flushing, was charged with Prostitution and Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at Acupressure Center Spa, located at 200 Route 25, Middle Island.

? Jinlan Zhu, 46, of 144-15 41st Ave., Flushing, was charged with Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at 88 Relaxation Spa, located at 2229 Route 112, Pond Plaza, Coram.

? Lili Xie, 35, of 14220 Franklin Ave. Apt. 7T, Flushing, was charged with Unauthorized Practice of a Profession while working at Rose Spa (Spa 856), 856 Portion Road, Holtsville.



There were an additional 12 people arrested during this operation but their records have been sealed.



Massage tables, assorted body oils, lotions, towels, bedding, and cash were seized. Following the arrests, a majority of these businesses closed.
 
Way too many reports about busts or survelliance? No there's not. There's not one bust. And not one sighting of any surveillance. Just a bunch of yucks imagining it. Speculating about it based on an address. Paranoia.

Geez.

SG
 
Thanks for finding the post KO. If someone wants to take the risk of go going there when as noted there are endless other places well that's their problem.
 
Geez, you make it sound like this is the only place in the entire NYC that gives handjobs after massages. There was way too many reports about LE busts or survelliance on this place that makes it worth the risks, be they paranoid rumors or not. It's not like this place is filed with Asians providing greek for $100; we ain't missing much; this place is a dime a dozen in NYC, so stop criticizing those who had too much to lose
 
Dudes. Y'all need to drop these paranoid fantasies and return to sexual fantasies. Semen build-up can hurt.

I can tell you from first-hand experience this week that reports of its demise are greatly exaggerated. On the contrary, everything was normal in our special sick-minded monger way.

SG
 
As far as I can see, the UG thread is still there....

http://utopiaguide.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46401
 
It was on UG but censored, go figure. Their phones were off for a day or so but back in biz. I heart NY!
 
Ha. While y'all junior G-men were fantasizing about LEO this week, I put my fantasy in Coco's hands. And guess what? I was getting one of the greatest HJs on this earth while y'all were worrying about the wrong billy club.

Yeah. This week. Went back. Saw Coco again. The only thing I was worried about was the second time might not be as great as the first. I was wrong. It was just as good. Two of the best HJs I've ever gotten.

Just sayin...

SG
 
Yesterday it was on UG. I don't see it there now but no surprise monitor took it down. That wouldnt be first time such a post was taken down. Is it true or not who knows..For me there too many places on side streets to keep me busy.
 
Really? Because they're answering their phone and taking appointments. Today.

SG
 
I read a post yesterday that Empire on 34th was raided. There were posts back in November about them being under surveillance. Ive always avoided even though I live on 34th.
 
I am still working out the bugs. When things settle down I will post a review.
 
where is this mystical place, if you don't mind my asking? sounds great
 
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  42. SugarLoveSpa:
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  43. Annie Spa:
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  47. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Vicky 30’s with curve body and young sweet Mia 25’s, young sexy slime Sophia 30’s and Cute GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  48. Red Rose Spa:
    🌸 We have 5 hot brown girls today 🌸 MONICA, ANGEL, SARIKA, SABHA, AMANDA, MIMI, ASHA, ANGELINA, KIRAN, SALMA 🌸 2588 Birchmount 🌸 2 Invergordon 🌸 647-702-8800 🌸 Please visit for a great erotic massage
  49. luckywellness:
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