local small business referral group

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So I went to a couple meetings of a small business referral group. Im not sure what I was expecting, but....i was SO friggin bored. Nothing there applied to me, or my business. Alot of reading from a book, talking about things that dont concern me. And theres a fee to join. Only $100. for a year, but i think thats money I could spend on say..advertising? I really need to look into getting a yellow page ad, seems to be working for others. Anyone else belong to some kind of community small business group?
 


I joined one in the spring. It took a while to get started but in the past few weeks I've gotten several new clients from the group. What really helped was actually getting the other members on my table. When they realized what I was all about, they started referring people like crazy.

In out group we have a mobile dry cleaner, a realtor, a mortgage broker, a florist, an insurance agent, a photographer, a baker, a hair salon, a landscaper, a Mary Kay rep, a financial planner, a web designer, a life and business coach and a naturopath (I'm sure I'm forgetting some). There's a huge variety of people but we all seem to mesh together pretty well. I have a friend who joined one in a different town and had no success with it at all. So I really think it depends on the group you find.
 
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You are correct, the group makes a difference. It also makes a difference the personality of the person in the MT shoes. I have heard from one female MT in BNI that gets a lot of biz from her group. I don't get much if any from mine. I've had a few of them on the table, some of them on the chair...but still not many referrals. They say it takes a year to make the relationships and trust, I've been in this group 9+months. Jan 1, they better shower me with referrals! J/K...

It could be up to you to liven up the group. Don't rule it out, unless you are already a good networker. Most MT's are not.
 


I have looked into many refferal groups, and the top things that turn me off is #1 the cost #2 the strict rule #3 the early meeting (7am is ungodly, people!)
The best bargain I have found is my local chamber of commerce, they have the largest mix of people, a large vartiety of events, mixers, and socials. Also, its the best bang for the buck. For me, it was $30 to join and $230 a year, but the deduct $19 a month from my checking, and the free food and great advertising they do for me more than covers that $19. Plus they know everything about small business and the office staff is great!
Another great thing is small free marketing groups that other business owners have started. They usually limit it to 1 business per caeforum.xxxory, but I have yet to run into another MT in these. I know of 2 in my area, but the time frames don't work for me, so I am starting my own. Many of my clients have thier own small business (I found them through the chamber of commerce).
 


thats a very good idea, thank you! i had thought a while back about getting involved w/ the commerce, maybe i need to get off my arse & do it! :}
 
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StressSolutions said:
You are correct, the group makes a difference. It also makes a difference the personality of the person in the MT shoes. I have heard from one female MT in BNI that gets a lot of biz from her group. I don't get much if any from mine. I've had a few of them on the table, some of them on the chair...but still not many referrals. They say it takes a year to make the relationships and trust, I've been in this group 9+months. Jan 1, they better shower me with referrals! J/K...

It could be up to you to liven up the group. Don't rule it out, unless you are already a good networker. Most MT's are not.

Hey StressSolutions.... how's it going? Any showers yet?
 


Hey stresssolutions,

How goes BNI??
 


How did I miss Tex's reply? Hmmmmm

No, no showers yet. BNI biz kinda comes and goes. I occasionally get some biz from being located in another member's building, a person will come in and wind up as a referral.

I gave a stack of the "give to get" cards to a couple 3 of the members that have been good clients so they could pass them out...a realtor, mortgage, and the insurance lady. So far the insurance lady has stirred up some interest. The Plumber sponsered the local baseball team with flush 'em out innings, so he bought 10 half hour GCs to give there.

A lot of the guys don't want another hairy guy rubbing on them for an hour, so they're out. Funny though, the plumber is one, but he's given his wife a gc and bought those others, so he's trying. The electrician is another, but one of his employees bought a gc for his wife. She never used it, but............

Guess I've been down lately, have not done much if any networking other than going to the meetings and chamber events.
 


Mick,

How do you pay for BNI?? All in one lump?? Monthly? I also heard members all share in the cost of the meeting place every week plus food. I would expect some extra charges, besides, its a biz expence. Do they accept credit cards?

There is a new chapter forming in my area. When I went to look at that building again yesterday, the insurance agent next door told me about it. I was a bit excited about it because I had heard such good things about BNI.

Some of the bad points I have heard about BNI have been such things like: it is to expencive and they keep nickel and diming members and other members arent doing their job of refering clients to other members.

I think part of the problem with not getting members to refer may be that other members do not know how to market other businesses besides there own. Have you offered steep discounts to your BNI group just to get them in your door to experience massage? Because you know how that goes! After they get a massage they tell everyone!
 


here is my input about bni. i didn't like it. it's very political ~ boo...

also, you've really got to be in the right group. what's the right group you ask? good luck finding it. you'll know once you've attended enough meetings. of course by that point, you'll learn you're in the wrong group but already paid your money so you're stuck.

the way i see bni is different than others. i don't want people giving me referrals because they HAVE to, i want them giving me referrals because they WANT to. that's the thing. bni members, if you're lucky, will come to visit you and may give you an occasional referral because they feel like they should. but know what happens when they're or you're not in that group anymore? ~ no more business and no more referrals. i don't want to do business with people like this. that's the main reason i didn't like it. it's a relationship that lasts as long as your membership and that's if you have one at all with those in your group.

people are in bni to GET business, not to GIVE it. sure you may get some business from it but it's a lot of money and a lot of time that i feel isn't well spent.
 


I belong to a breakfast networking group that is great to belong to and yes, 7am is awfully early. I get some good referrals but we have a lot of fun anyway. They are a nice group of people and it is pleasant to get together with other people who are also in business for themselves.

Also, we have a lawyer, a moreforum.xxxe broker, a realtor and a tax accountant among the membership, so guess who I can turn to for free advice?!

Our group is $100 for the first year, then $25 for renewal, and breakfast only costs about $6.00 (Canadian) a week.

I find it is worth it.

Here is a link to the group's website. (We also have a web designer!) I think a good website is really important.

http://businessbyreferral.ca/

Often, in a group like this, they want to see if you are going to refer to THEM before they atart referring to you. I offer trial massages (or myo-fascial release) and that really got the ball rolling.

I think BNI is very expensive, and has a lot of rules and restrictions. There are alternatives.

Marion
 


Well, you have to pay the initial fee at first, and they do take c/c. There will be a weekly fee, usually paid monthly or quarterly. Ours is lunch, and it is $10/week. (Lousy lunch). There is a required training, now $15. Once per year for that, usually, unless you miss more than 3 meetings in a 6 month period, then the class will deduct an absense.

I offer 20% discount to Bni members and family. It is a far greater discount than any other bni member offers in my chapter. Most don't offer anything.
 


wowzers.. i guess you're right, you do have to be in the right group.

i finally stumbled on one that i decided to go ahead and join. i can tell you that even if i don't get another referral (the ones i've gotten in 2 weeks have already paid for my membership), i have learned so much about networking and expressing myself. i guess i lucked out.

i'm not sure about all of the rules yet - haven't had the chance to look over them, etc, but i thought i'd give it a shot for a year, especially since i'm expanding this month and i really want to get some new clients in.

i do some of the chamber events too, but again i've gotten more of a response from the BNI group than from the chamber people i've met so far. but i feel that in time that will pay off too. it's all about your intention, i think. if you have the time and energy to *work* it, it will work.. i just hope i can keep the energy up! and 7am is the only time that i really have , well, actually it's 7:45, but still i wouldn't be able to fit it in elsewhere.

anyway, just my very fresh experience..
amanda
 


I joined the "West Valley Business Connections". It costs $60 a year. I think it has been great for my business. And, I have used several services of the other businesses in the group. Everyone so far has been really nice and I feel like i've even made a few new friends. So, it has been a positive experience for me.
 


I joined my local BNI yesterday. Yes, it is a commitment, but I think I can handle it. Plus, it is lunch, which I do anyway, this way it is a tax deduction. We are in the forming seforum.xxxe right now, so we need to get more members. We should have our official kick off within 6 to 8 weeks, that will draw in more members as well.
 


hey, christine, how's your BNI experience going?

i'm still very happy with my membership. still getting (and giving) referrals, the members really helped and backed me during my grand opening, and tuesday is my first 10 minute presentation.

in fact, i've gotten a business coach thru my group and he's helping me so much.

i'm so glad i got a good group. they've really helped me take my business to another level. anxious to hear how yours is working out.
amanda
 


livingwell said:
hey, christine, how's your BNI experience going?

Yeah, that...

Slow. We are not a full fledged group yet. Still in the "core" seforum.xxxe. We are still required to attend weekly, and it is starting to wear on a lot of us in the group. We are trying hard to get new members at the same time another group is. Our group would be the 2nd in this area. The first group is a year old. Our director said we may just start attending every other week because she can tell we are getting a bit burned out.
 
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    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILLโ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ,647-222-5683 (PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Young Beautiful Girls : Ellagant Ella, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) **TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY ARE๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ Ella๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ
  31. EMSpa_schedule:
    Tomorrow's sneak peek: On Friday May 9, 2025, our attendants will be Vicky ๐Ÿ˜, Ada ๐Ÿค—, Carla โค, Cici ๐Ÿฅฐ and Opal ๐Ÿ˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ(905) 479-6668โ˜Ž๏ธ to book!
  32. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  33. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Vicky 22, Philippine mixed White , very open-Minded , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  34. EMSpa_schedule:
    Hey! Where have you been? Today (Thursday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿค—, Cici ๐Ÿ˜˜, Vicky ๐Ÿฅณ, Sophie ๐Ÿ˜ and Monica ๐Ÿ˜˜. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  35. SL East Spa:
    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–Terrific Thursday ๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: SL Richmond Hill & SL West Oakville โœจ Your passport to paradise with 10 enchanting girls fr China, HK โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Tiffany, Joey, Julie, Aaliyah, Cici, Coco, Yui, Meghan, Julia & New 34D Jasmineโ€”โ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits
  36. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’–sexy hot busty ๐ŸŒน Indian ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนkorean girls๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนworking ๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—at markham โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
  37. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower body scrub Sea Salt Bath๐Ÿ‘every day 3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Nice girl Mia โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 36 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, back walking has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will b
  38. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  39. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10.on Thursday ,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…beautiful Jessica come back,deep tissue to relax massage and nice body slide๐Ÿ…sunny very good looking,big breasted sweet sensual touch really popular ๐ŸŒนlong hair young beautiful Lucy,friendly smile,back walk,strong to relax oil amazing ending๏ผŒrelief your stress,must try๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜
  40. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Yuki 24, Korean Slim , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  41. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  42. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: JOJO (12pm-9pm): is a busty JAPANESE girl, magnificent DD Cup boobs, short, petite small body, pretty face AV Star, bbbj cim cof rim, special services available. KITTY (12pm-9pm) is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business. Very friendly
  43. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beaut
  44. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  45. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  46. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian , pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Yuki ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  47. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
  48. SugarLoveSpa:
    Thursday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: CHRISTINA, MIA, SARA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. MIA is a young & slim ๐™Ž๐™‹๐™„๐™‰๐™‰๐™€๐™, very PRETTY & PETITE Vietnamese beauty with perfect natural A Cups, 5โ€™1โ€ & 90 Lbs, very versatile. Come and enjoy.
  49. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Taiwanese Victoria slime open mind and young flirty Tina with sexy body open mind, sexy Coco and Cute GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  50. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธLuna๐ŸŒธValentina๐ŸŒธKellyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
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