Chat Inflation impacts to hobbying...

[OG_funguy]

$500 for a massage? You have a good amount of disposable income. 10% of my income will go to these hoes if that. Groceries and gas cost me like $500 more. That’s like 3 trips for me. Lol. I can’t justify paying $500 (one session) for sex. Maybe when I am old it would make sense. A beautiful girl willing to put out (non whore) is not a rare situation for me.

Who's paying $500 for a massage?

 

[Deleted member 88306]

The mineral oil used by most Spas are the equivalent of Baby Oil. But Baby oil is expensive. Most RMT do not use the oil supplied by the Spa. They bring their own which is Coconut oil. Coconut oil is a vegetable oil whereas Mineral oil is derived from petro. This Mineral Oil is still safe and used in the making of Hair Products as well but not Natural.

You can not trust the Chinese, seriously they are known to cut corners to make maximum profits. If I was going to a massage place I would never deal with a Chinese woman because I don't trust them for good reason. These Chinese are worse than the Jews when it comes to money.

 

[Barney_B]

I find there is great value out there. Ladies under $200 for fs.

Once I see those glam pictures, I know I am paying a premium for a service. With proper lighting, sexy underwear, correct angles and extensive waxing, a good photographer can make me look good.

I don't do fugly. Just refuse to drop a nickel for 60 mintues with someone who claims to be well educated, selective, etc. I want to get f'ed not debate. And I am not looking for nee friends.

I set a budget and stick to it. For $500/monthly, I can get two 30 minute sessions and one 45-60 minute session. This scratches my itch.

Know your limit and play within it!

 

[Buaya]

You can not trust the Chinese, seriously they are known to cut corners to make maximum profits. If I was going to a massage place I would never deal with a Chinese woman because I don't trust them for good reason. These Chinese are worse than the Jews when it comes to money.

That is stereotyping. Owners might not care but the MPA who is using this oil on 5/6 customers a day will certainly get upset if they get a reaction to garbage oil.
As a FYI. Even the Massage oil that we sell to the Distributor, is technically Food Grade that is also used to make Hair Products. I will not sell Technical Grade that is used for cleaning machinery etc.
My Distributor knows that. They do have some customers saying that they can get this Oil cheaper somewhere else and I know for a fact it is Technical grade. We import in a lot of these. I can say without a doubt that my Distributor accounts for at least 80% of Massage Oil sold in the GTA.
For those of you who knows Spa Owners or someone like Krayee, do educate them - cheaper does not mean better.
We also sell a lot of the Alcohol that these Spas use - again through the Distributor.

 

[Deleted member 88306]

That is stereotyping. Owners might not care but the MPA who is using this oil on 5/6 customers a day will certainly get upset if they get a reaction to garbage oil.
As a FYI. Even the Massage oil that we sell to the Distributor, is technically Food Grade that is also used to make Hair Products. I will not sell Technical Grade that is used for cleaning machinery etc.
My Distributor knows that. They do have some customers saying that they can get this Oil cheaper somewhere else and I know for a fact it is Technical grade. We import in a lot of these. I can say without a doubt that my Distributor accounts for at least 80% of Massage Oil sold in the GTA.
For those of you who knows Spa Owners or someone like Krayee, do educate them - cheaper does not mean better.
We also sell a lot of the Alcohol that these Spas use - again through the Distributor.

How many men would know notice if the grade of oil if is changed though? I am very chemically sensitive. I can't use baby shampoo without getting a reaction from it. It feels like my hair is on fire. If I went to get a massage and if they changed to technically oil I might notice a difference. I bought MCT oil once but I ended up throwing it out. I was using it for weight loss but I had such a bad reaction, probably not chemically but still, I couldn't continue taking it. I didn't think about using it on my skin. I can't use anything scents, or essential oils. I use dr Bronner's organic soap but only the unscented. If I went to places to get massages I would bring my own oil.
Talking about smell, did you know Glyde condoms do not have that smell that regular condoms do? Men will probably like it better because regular condoms have that funky smell. These condoms are double washed and it's all-natural.

 

[xtc27]

How many men would know notice if the grade of oil if is changed though? I am very chemically sensitive. I can't use baby shampoo without getting a reaction from it. It feels like my hair is on fire. If I went to get a massage and if they changed to technically oil I might notice a difference. I bought MCT oil once but I ended up throwing it out. I was using it for weight loss but I had such a bad reaction, probably not chemically but still, I couldn't continue taking it. I didn't think about using it on my skin. I can't use anything scents, or essential oils. I use dr Bronner's organic soap but only the unscented. If I went to places to get massages I would bring my own oil.
Talking about smell, did you know Glyde condoms do not have that smell that regular condoms do? Men will probably like it better because regular condoms have that funky smell. These condoms are double washed and it's all-natural.

Skiyn smell different 2… basically no smell… should ask the gal how they taste sometime!

 

[Toomanymiles]

Who's paying $500 for a massage?

Including fs I guess. I know ppl that do it. An attractive hoe will have an unattractive man with no luck with women wrapped around their fingers. $500+ complimentary gifts. Guys are depraved out there and these hoes can sniff it and exploit it likely cuz dude had no chance to get an attractive girl to begin with. Like if you ain’t that dude in high school/college you will never be that dude in your life without tricking and bragging about money. Even then, it’s not the same. That Casanova shit is mad rare and incites mad jealousy cuz it’s that fuckin rare. Lol

That’s why I don’t care for high end hookers. I still got that juice and their beauty is a dime a dozen to me. No if they dropped their prices I would do it. But $500? Hell no, you still like a 7/10. Them 10s command like $1500. Crazy how ppl go for it but I’m just a avg schmo when it comes to finances

 

[Deleted member 88306]

Including fs I guess. I know ppl that do it. An attractive hoe will have an unattractive man with no luck with women wrapped around their fingers. $500+ complimentary gifts. Guys are depraved out there and these hoes can sniff it and exploit it likely cuz dude had no chance to get an attractive girl to begin with. Like if you ain’t that dude in high school/college you will never be that dude in your life without tricking and bragging about money. Even then, it’s not the same. That Casanova shit is mad rare and incites mad jealousy cuz it’s that fuckin rare. Lol

That’s why I don’t care for high end hookers. I still got that juice and their beauty is a dime a dozen to me. No if they dropped their prices I would do it. But $500? Hell no, you still like a 7/10. Them 10s command like $1500. Crazy how ppl go for it but I’m just a avg schmo when it comes to finances

Just go to tinder or something. I'm not a pickup artist but it's easy to get a woman excited or her wanting sex. You can be fucking ugly and still get laid.

 

[aa84aa]

Getting back to the topic of inflation ...

Was chatting with a spa manager recently while my room was getting ready, and we got on the topic of inflation - how rent is going up, costs for supplies like oil, paper covers, etc., are all going up.

Because of these rising real costs, she was giving me a heads-up that they were going to increase their room rates, and girls are thinking of raising their tip rates, asking me what I thought about that.

Their hh room rate is going from $40 to $50 (or 25% increase), 45 min from $50 to $60 (or 20% increase), and hour from $60 to $80 (or 33.33% increase).

While I understood her reasoning and rationale, my questions to her were: what do your girls want? Are they wanting more hh sessions, or hour sessions? Are the bulk of your clients price sensitive to the room rates?

She didn't know as she hasn't asked them (yet) about their preferences.

Then she asked me would that affect my visits?

I told her that I would most likely no longer go for the hour rate. In the grand scheme of things, my tips to the girls won't be affected, but there are still enough spas that offer an hour for $60 (or even $50). Also given there is a healthy amount of competition (and at least 5 spas within a km circle of hers), that raising tips (or even room rates) probably wouldn't be the best thing, unless everyone nearby colluded together to raise rates.

As her girls are "independent contractors," she was indicating they can ask what they want within the room, but she strongly prefers they are around the $80 tip level for a BS.

Frequency of visits would be affected, as well as service levels, if prices uniformly were to go up.

 

[NatTurner]

Getting back to the topic of inflation ...

Was chatting with a spa manager recently while my room was getting ready, and we got on the topic of inflation - how rent is going up, costs for supplies like oil, paper covers, etc., are all going up.

Because of these rising real costs, she was giving me a heads-up that they were going to increase their room rates, and girls are thinking of raising their tip rates, asking me what I thought about that.

Their hh room rate is going from $40 to $50 (or 25% increase), 45 min from $50 to $60 (or 20% increase), and hour from $60 to $80 (or 33.33% increase).

While I understood her reasoning and rationale, my questions to her were: what do your girls want? Are they wanting more hh sessions, or hour sessions? Are the bulk of your clients price sensitive to the room rates?

She didn't know as she hasn't asked them (yet) about their preferences.

Then she asked me would that affect my visits?

I told her that I would most likely no longer go for the hour rate. In the grand scheme of things, my tips to the girls won't be affected, but there are still enough spas that offer an hour for $60 (or even $50). Also given there is a healthy amount of competition (and at least 5 spas within a km circle of hers), that raising tips (or even room rates) probably wouldn't be the best thing, unless everyone nearby colluded together to raise rates.

As her girls are "independent contractors," she was indicating they can ask what they want within the room, but she strongly prefers they are around the $80 tip level for a BS.

Frequency of visits would be affected, as well as service levels, if prices uniformly were to go up.

It's a business after all. It's pay for play

 

[Pay2Play]

It's a business after all. It's pay for play

Interesting concept.

 

[kittyhound69]

My income has not gone up 33%

 

[OG_funguy]

Getting back to the topic of inflation ...

Was chatting with a spa manager recently while my room was getting ready, and we got on the topic of inflation - how rent is going up, costs for supplies like oil, paper covers, etc., are all going up.

Because of these rising real costs, she was giving me a heads-up that they were going to increase their room rates, and girls are thinking of raising their tip rates, asking me what I thought about that.

Their hh room rate is going from $40 to $50 (or 25% increase), 45 min from $50 to $60 (or 20% increase), and hour from $60 to $80 (or 33.33% increase).

While I understood her reasoning and rationale, my questions to her were: what do your girls want? Are they wanting more hh sessions, or hour sessions? Are the bulk of your clients price sensitive to the room rates?

She didn't know as she hasn't asked them (yet) about their preferences.

Then she asked me would that affect my visits?

I told her that I would most likely no longer go for the hour rate. In the grand scheme of things, my tips to the girls won't be affected, but there are still enough spas that offer an hour for $60 (or even $50). Also given there is a healthy amount of competition (and at least 5 spas within a km circle of hers), that raising tips (or even room rates) probably wouldn't be the best thing, unless everyone nearby colluded together to raise rates.

As her girls are "independent contractors," she was indicating they can ask what they want within the room, but she strongly prefers they are around the $80 tip level for a BS.

Frequency of visits would be affected, as well as service levels, if prices uniformly were to go up.

Room rates going up to $80 would suck and I would be avoiding those places...

I know one spa that increased to $70 and it definitely affected their business. Plus, the girls told me that the customers still gave them the same "overall" amount which meant $10 more to the boss and $10 less for them. In the end, the owner went back to $60 so guys, you can still talk with your wallets...

 

[mpmonger]

FS rate in one spa has gone up 50%, from $100 to $150, no matter if you are a long-time regular. F*** that.
Don't fall for price gouging. There are lots of options.

 

[kittyhound69]

If OG stops going to spas the spa business will crash. So OG ? How about you protest and bring prices down lol

 

[xtc27]

They gotta consider agencies = holding the line, @ least some, @ 160hh.

When I started, I could get hj & full nudity @ $ hh…

$60 difference… ofc, no bj, no fs, but nude woman + HE, seemed like gd deal…

Now, if a nude handy = $130 or $140… that agency gal starting 2 look more appealing!

 

[Jumpin’ Jack Flash]

Room rates going up to $80 would suck and I would be avoiding those places...

I know one spa that increased to $70 and it definitely affected their business. Plus, the girls told me that the customers still gave them the same "overall" amount which meant $10 more to the boss and $10 less for them. In the end, the owner went back to $60 so guys, you can still talk with your wallets...

If everyone cut back, I know it’s difficult to impossible for some, we’ll probably see some softening of fees.

 

[xtc27]

If everyone cut back, I know it’s difficult to impossible for some, we’ll probably see some softening of fees.

Don’t cut back… just go 2 spas holding the line on fees … & girls holding the line on tips.

 

[xtc27]

I know 4 a fact eSpa increased $$$ they give 2 girls f/ rm fees, while holding the line 4 clients… giving girls more $$$

Holistic spa rates > semilegit … always 40/60/80 … & girls use2 get no cut…

… they get $30 of $80hr rm fee now… $10 of $60 rm fee … so if yer gonna notice girls want u 2 stay longer now

In theory, spa gets less $$$… in reality, they attract hi quality girls that way & get more biz

 

[Jumpin’ Jack Flash]

It’s funny that many of the more expensive girls spend a lot of time in the back room complaining what a slow day they’re having.