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I have talked to 2 different people who spent xmas and newyear in patong ,1 a many time los veteran and he was surprised with the large crowds there this year over christmas ,definetly the crowded he has seen it for many years, lot of bars 3 or 4 deep at times. Good to see the bar owners making a quid..makes up for those long nights during low season.:)
 
I thought the opposite , although the beach and Bangla were crowded a lot of it was families with kids. Found the side Soi's not nearly as busy as last year , guess there is a different "type" of tourist visiting now.

Certain nights bars were busy but did not think Soi Eric was anywhere near as "full" as previous visits.
 
Agree with Faulty.. Town felt maddeningly busy.. but Bars didnt seem to see the impact as much.. Of course there was the peak week over Christmas and New Year.. But not feeling the numbers that were visible on the streets.
 
well there ya go ..then again he was in patong with his girlfriend probaly clouded his judgement..
 
Soi Croc and Bangla front bars were busy - otherwise agree with Faulty - things quietened down a lot mid-Jan.
 
I agree Phuket or Patong has been very busy, Bangla full of families and couples but the bars has been more slow than normal. IMHO.
 
Dont get me wrong guys, but I have heard that Patong has become more of a family, couple destination that is why I have been going to Pattaya for last 2 years.

What I have read here possibly confirms this belief. I have also been reading in another thread that it has become quite expensive. Is it becoming a 'boutique' type destination catering for the family rather than a chap like me who wants to have a few weeks of debauchery with hot tgs/lbs and to escape my real life??
 
There are more upscale developments for sure. Was at Joe's South (Joe's Downstairs in Kata) last night. 295 baht for drinks. Really nicely done. Not a place for debauchery. Was also told there is a huge 6 star japanese hotel going in in Kata. Some of the things i heard were really top end. So that is more and more the trend. but doubt the lady scene will get totally shut down.
 
It's all true Nero! I came here for exactly the same things you mention and it's all gone!

Bars close at 10PM. No girls. Beer (When available) is 300Baht a bottle and you have to drink it out of a brown paper bag! I got the tailors to make me a black shirt with a little white collar and walk along Bangla with a bible preaching the Gospel according to St Dodger of Kamala: "Though shalt not shake your hips in a 'Get-Jiggy-With-It' kinda way!" All the ladyboys are sat on street corners, no makeup, living in cardboard boxes, shaking their heads and saying "Where did it all go wrong!"..........in Thai obviously.

Nope! Enough is enough. I'm off to Malaysia, far, far better there. Infact, I hope nobody else comes here ever again, especially single blokes with loadsamoney! :rolleyes:

 
sheesh,
that,s terrible denver. i really feel for you.
maybe id better cancel my april trip then
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My conclusion is that Phuket offers excellent value in the low season. I tried getting a hotel in Phuket for the first week in Feb ( a late booking) but could not find anywhere decent. However, the low season prices can be as low as 50% of the high season price. Maybe the low season will also be busier?

Pattaya seems to reflect what is happening in Phuket. Hotels pretty full, but bars quieter than previous years. Families and couples (Koreans/Japs/Eastern Europe) are the new influx there.
 
Apart from dodgy money-laundering Russians, why would these families go to Pattaya? Why?! Am I missing something?
 
I wondered the same thing.. Seeing old females wandering around..

I mean, I know what there is that appeals.. But its dirty, rough, etc etc.. Whats the appeal for them ??
 
Sitting on bangla just watching people go by, "normal" tourists and couples far out numbered guys with girls. Even past 2am, it wasn't the parade of guys and girls/ladyboys like it was even last year. Something has changed in patong for sure.
 
And how will that effect the money flow ?? Will Phuket do better without them ??

Also if less punters will that mean less top flight girls ?? Will it lower the quality ?? Will the punter migration snowball ??

Patts is the obvious winner if that does happen.
 
I thought that was obvious - it's cheaper!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I'd say less stunners than previous years. Really none to even take notice of this year. Most bars seem slower. Looks like the old nightlife in general is taking a hit. Meanwhile the more punter-free places like Seduction are packed with couples and big farang women (they scare me). So I guess some winners and some losers.
 
But its not cheaper than places less touristified...

Looking at my wallet sure didnt feel any cheaper to me..
 
But the people I mentioned are known as ''non-spenders'', whereas you enjoy yourself in the gogo bars etc.

They are new to tourism, so will go to tourist areas. The accommodation in Pattaya is cheaper than any other tourist areas in LOS that I can think of, and it is 90 minutes from the airport by road.

As for the place being dirty,polluted etc. - that does not seem to bother them. Think back 20 years (when these visitors were teenagers) and the reports on the news that I remember about the Eastern block was food shoreforum.xxxes etc. With a background like that, they are probably pleased to able to take any sort of holiday - their parenets never did.
 
My last trip to Patong was in December 2005 and I had a wow of a time but my girl is in Patts. I think the shear size of the mongering in Patts is the draw card for me. Plus I have stayed at the Sandy Spring Hotel in Patts now 3 times and I have got to know the concierge really well who can organise anything for you if you get my drift!!

However saying this I really miss the long hot days sunbaking on the beautiful Patong Beach.

Both places have there 'charms'.
 
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    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน Table shower body scrub Sea Salt Bath๐Ÿ‘every day 3 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Nice girl Mia โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 36 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, back walking has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will b
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  42. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10 to10.on Thursday ,Ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…beautiful Jessica come back,deep tissue to relax massage and nice body slide๐Ÿ…sunny very good looking,big breasted sweet sensual touch really popular ๐ŸŒนlong hair young beautiful Lucy,friendly smile,back walk,strong to relax oil amazing ending๏ผŒrelief your stress,must try๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ˜
  43. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa : โค๏ธโค๏ธ SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿฉท๐ŸฉทElena 22, Latino French, 36 DDD and ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ASS, ๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹Yuki 24, Korean Slim , ๐Ÿ˜ˆbbbj , DFk ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  44. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  45. AliceSpa:
    THURSDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”.4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 girls here today at ALICE SPA. Open 10am to 9pm: JOJO (12pm-9pm): is a busty JAPANESE girl, magnificent DD Cup boobs, short, petite small body, pretty face AV Star, bbbj cim cof rim, special services available. KITTY (12pm-9pm) is a new Korean girl, super busty, small body, new to the business. Very friendly
  46. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Suki๐Ÿ˜is beautiful short petite tiny sexy student from Cambodia. Exotic features and model looks, Suki has a nice bum, slim waist, flat stomach and very good massage skills and has a great playful personality. Suki has a beaut
  47. ForeverWarden:
    Thursday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Cindy, Sophia & Tracy. Cindy is a slim beauty, 5โ€™4โ€, natural C Cups. Her massage is nice, her services will drive you wild & her finish is a dream come true. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass. Sophia can provide top notch services
  48. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center: Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Tina ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Cindy ,Student big boobs buttocks Vicky, Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry ,๐Ÿ address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510 ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  49. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Vivian , pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Yuki ,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Anjoo ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„
  50. HolidaySpa:
    Thursday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: ANGELA, LUCY & CINDY. Angela is versatile and responsive. LUCY is a beautiful and slim Asian lady with a happy disposition and great services. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady with a smile that will melt your heart, & an ass that will fire up your spirit.
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