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So not nice talking with a lady like that, Sargeant! She might have made a mistake thinking she met you before .... and frankly, this is a common name! Everyone walks in with a StiffCock! So, mistakes happen, my friend.

Relax.
 
As a client, there's only a few things that I ask from MPA's:

1.) Don't leave me waiting in the room for an hour. My time is valuable too.

2.) Don't take me for granted. There are a ton of MPA's who'd be happy to see me.

3.) Don't view me as a walking wallet!

I understand that MPA's are there to make money and I respect that. However, if I'm paying $100 for 30 minutes that's already multiple times my OWN salary... PRE-TAX I might add. Therefore I'm not one to be throwing around extra $20's for "tips" on a regular basis. I think some MPA's tend to lose sight of economic reality after being in the biz for a while.

On the flip side:
...if I don't have enough money for a BS session.... I STAY AT HOME!
 
I'm beginning to think the same way. Although you have to admire her stubborness. Whatever her arguments lack in rationale, they make up for in passion.
 
I said it in the beginning. I have never and never will ask for a discount at a MP and agree that it's downright cheap and it will hinder service for sure.

What I didn't like is MPA2s attitude thinking that she can always charge the going rates. That's all...
 
I'll give it one more shot but this is really getting boring now.

That's just what you don't get. In business you HAVE to be flexible. Lucky for you, what you are selling is a one of a kind product. There isn't another MPA2 exactly the same as you. Based on that, you have a better chance at calling your own shots in your business as long as you have enough men interested in seeing you. But even in your business, (as you also know) you have to be realistic, you can not overcharge, you have to go with the flow / the industry standard. What you don't get is the fact that if that standard changes (if the rate of BS goes down to $60.00 at ALL the half decent spas in Toronto) You would HAVE to follow that standard or go out of business. Coming on here and saying I am worth what I'm worth is just talk.

With your mentality, based on your comments, I would like to see how far you go in the real world selling a mainstream product. My guess is not very far. Some women in the trade may not like my next comment but...

As difficult as your business is (the sex trade) there is a reason why you do it and the reality (in my opinion) is, there isn't much else you CAN do. Just like I do what I do, because that is all I'm capable of. Read my signature line lately?

Goodbye...
 
.... You know very well that you are always my Princess! But since you've decided to go with another Prince to that massageplanet.net party ... I am sooooo MUCH more jealous!
 
Sir???? ... I don't know.

I moved to this country from a rich family. But, I started working as a Pizza Delivery boy! I never asked my parents for any kind of financial help. Not even 1 penny, as God is my witness.

And, it was so difficult time ....

Today, I AM where I AM! I WANTED to be where I AM and got there. When I'm looking around, I WANT more and I WANT to be MORE .... no matter how hard it is.

I don't lie, I don't steal, and I don't use people to reach my goals. I work smart NOT hard. Otherwise, how else I could spend so much time with my angels?!

If / when I am not happy with my life, I don't sit on my ass thinking ... I deserve it.

And, I don't go to SPA trying to get discount to buy a f*** Bentley! Sorry, couldn't resist.

It's your life.... your choice. But everyone deserves to be / do better IF they want to.
 
MPA,

I don't think anyone is attacking you more so than challenging your opinion. Also, it's not the argument that "undercharging" is good for business, but it's the point that you have to be flexible in order to survive in business. That flexibility could be a reduced rate or enhanced service experience (within MP limits), but there has to be that compromise. Granted, there are many cases of highly specialized services where it is detrimental to business to lower rates as it would devalue the service, but whether that applies to the MP business is a decision between the client and MPA to make. Given the fact that it is a luxury and discretionary expense, I would tend to believe that it wouldn't fall in the aforementioned category, but I could be wrong.

Also, you yourself have stated that you take other factors into consideration and are flexible. This would be in contrast to your stance that rate modifications undermine your business.

Yes there are factors that weigh into what I decide that value is (like demand, competition, season, facilities, etc)

My fundamental point here is that although the MP business is different from other mainstream business ventures, there are still some fundamental principles that apply to all business. In this case, it's the principle of Flexibility. Even in your business, where I believe that factors are tilted favourably to the provider, the provider still needs to be able to adapt on an occassional basis.
 
MPAsquared, you're still only worth what someone is willing to pay you, no disrespect, just the truth.
 
MPA2, are you sure you want to use this argument? So, let me get this straight. As a MPA, giving massages are a sexual service and $100 for BS is not as invasive as when you receive an offer of $65 for BS?
 
Im hoping someone who knows me, WITHOUT revealing who I am, can vouch for how wrong this guy is!!!

Disturbia, you are a gem. A friendly debate is lovely, an ass isnt!

SCC...FYI...Im a PART TIME MPA...I've never been only a rub'n tugger. I consistantly tell MPA's new and old to never just massage, you'll go brain dead and you'll get stuck and do it for life! You dont wanna end up 45 with an ad in the paper selling FS for $40 to compete!! Pay for school, feed your kids, buy a house, start a business. DO SOMETHING! Dont keep a blank resume!!!! Its important to still know the value of a dollar! If a girl never has a 'real job' they wont know how lucky they are to make the $ they do.

As for me, I have a job outside this business. I have 2 degrees and 2 trade diplomas. Investments, a roof over my head, etc. Im a smart cookie and I truely resent your assumption that we are all morons that 'cant make it in the real world'

Its easy to mindlessly massage, dance on a pole, sell drugs, its easy to just do things for $. It takes a smart girl to succeed not only with her goals, but to make the most of the business we CHOOSE to be in! I have taken alot from this business, education that no one else gets. I would love to see the look on your face when you see whats coming soon for me....Some things come full circle my friend...MPAsquared is no dummy.
 
And, what I didn't like is exactly what you still keep repeating. You are not in a position to force people to accept what you think is right or wrong. Not even here!

She can charge $$ whatever she likes. We, as clients, either accept the suggested rate or get the hell out of the room. It's her decision, her job, and her life.

It's not about ass kissing. It's about respecting people's decision. IF, for example, one of my regulars ask me WHY she no longer has enough clients due to her high rate, then I may suggest how to improve the situation by charging less. Then again, she would either accept my recommendation or not. Either way, I would shut up and end of discussion.

That's all.
 
I don't think life is so simple. For getting into a career, there's aptitude, desire, and opportunity. You're saying that everyone is working at the limit of their aptitude, and that is simply not so.
 
Right on Squared! One of the principles I use in my business every day is to charge what you are worth but be worth what you charge. Hi end or low end, this works.

I bet you are worth every penny!
 
Actually I missed this one. But here's my reply. I dont think any less of anyone on any side of this biz. I girl can choose where she wants to work. And no I dont think a 500/hr escort sees me or any MPA as cheap. I dont see them as expensive. I'd like to hope they are worth their price. hotter and more skilled than me and of course high mileage.

Im no little girl fresh on the scene. IM TALKING FROM MY EXPERIENCE! FROM BEING AN MPA and based on my experience in other industries too. I was taught yrs ago that discounting your service devalues the service. And that WASNT in massage.
 
No its not true in all cases but it is true in most cases (to the limit of their perceived aptitude).....and the MP biz for the vast vast vast majority of the time fits into this.

Girls dont get into a job like that because they want to or because they always dreamed of doing it.

Lets face it, if they could do something else and make at least a comparable salary doing it.... they would. This is not to say they cant ever do just as much if not much more in another endeavor later on in the future...but right now, at the present moment that they are working at the spa... its the best they can do as far as income generation goes.

Dont get confused... the best you can do is not ALL you can do
 
Look, Mr. hard Cock, that is the most disrespectful and uneducated thing I have EVER heard someone say. "(In my opinion) there isn't much else you CAN do"

I have been reading this thread for some time now and although I didn't agree with your opinion, I did respect your thoughts. That has all been blown out the window now that you have shown your true colours as a complete IDIOT...
 
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    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Pretty Girl Cici, New Sexy Girl Faye, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌCICI๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  35. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: Amy & Fiona. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy
  36. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. Alice spa has 3 beauties to choose from today. Open 10am to 9pm: Super SPINNER SUMMER: is a super petite student, very small and slim, 5โ€™3โ€ & super spinner 90 pounds, All Natural 33B Cups & 33โ€ Spinner Hips, very young looking with her pretty baby face. Great at bbbj dfk cim rim cof. Excellent service and Spinner Bod!
  37. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Sophia,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510
  38. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  39. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Anika , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage salon ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella, Taiwan girl DD Boobs Thai deep massage lily,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธValentina๐ŸŒธHellen๐ŸŒธNinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  41. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and sexy Coco and sweet GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer, Sophia & Cindy. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  43. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CHRISTINA & JENNY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded.
  44. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
  45. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Yumi๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ’‹A striking new tall gorgeous Korean model with long, flowing reddish-brown hair cascading down her back and a slender, elegant figure that exudes grace and poise. Yumiโ€™s natural confidence and allure, make her approach
  46. luckywellness:
    295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7, There are two girls working today, Yoyo and Lala. Lala is the new girl, she is very very young and very very thin, both of them provide very good massage and service
  47. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  48. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Elena Vietnamese Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Cici Cute Vietnamese Girl Judy Vietnamese Girl Natalie filipina mixed Petite girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  49. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: ๐ŸŒนMonica, Julie and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน.
  50. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Pretty Girl Cici, New Sexy Girl Faye, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌCICI๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
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