disappointed Gaijin, back from Tokyo

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I use Roppongi Chinese massage chicks every now and then and I don't get ripped off at all.

I am just very very clear during the negotiation that I will pay 10,000 for a full massage .... EVERYTHING. I make that very clear and demand that they confirm what I am asking for.

Inevitably, they will ask for more money after the "massage", but I pretend to get pissed off and they give in after about 15 seconds.

A handjob is no sweat for them. They are just trying to make some cash.

If the handjob is exceptional, I'll give a 2000 tip.
 
A word about the Roppongi and Shibuya touts. They always talked to me these gaijin and I just joked with them saying I had too many girls for free then asking what country they were from shake hands with them perhaps and keep walking, they are not very persistant, if you think they are dont go to Bali. Not all are black men although most are,Ive had white Aussies Kiwis Russians all sorts of whites try to talk me into clubs. The ordinary clubs in Roppongi are different, there the big black chap at the door will invite you in but not charge you anything.
Avoid the ubiquitus Tokyo Chinese massagi ladies unless like me you speak rudimentary Chinese have lived in China and associate almost exclusively with Chinese females in Oz.
 
Meeting women is different in every country. I maintain that for the average Tokyo chap bars are not the way to go. Bars and clubs are the way most of us chaps are accustomed to meet women, but in Japan bars are very small and the numbersof gals limited. Japanese nightclubs (not the gaijin ones in Roppongi and environs) charge 3000 yen for entry and if you go outside you cantcome back in without paying again. A can of beer in Roppongi is about 1000 yen, poor value formoney considering the Jgal selection available.
Id be interested in how Tripex went on his Tokyo trip last month. He said he intended to go to the bars.
Japanese women love shopping and Japan has far more shops than anywhere Ive been, take advaneforum.xxxe of it. I played nampa in the shops streets trains anywhere and it takes a lot of time and effort. One or two posters have derided me for it but far far more chaps have congratulated me. I am the first to admit that my results were not outstanding but they were better than before I started. If you are a resident or a young confident visitor it is easy to get free sex in Tokyo, BUT quality pussy is far harder. Thats why I started nampa, I easily got Japanese girlfriends before nampa but not of the quality that I was happy with.
It is rare in Tokyo very rare in fact to see any gaijin with a top shelf Jgirl. Most have gals that are at best second rate by Japanese standards. Those that have the first raters tendto be much younger than their Jgal. There are exceptions of course as in anything. I know I generalize a lot but you have to in a country like Japan. But even the 2nd 3rd and 4th raters are typically far better than the western chap would get back home so I can understand why some chaps are so taken by their Japan experience. A certain countryman of mine read somewhere that itis best to speak to the gals only in eigo and recently posted this advice. Learn as much nihongo as possible you will need it, the english speakers are usually completely fucked up or are Ojyousamas (spoiled princess) or just want to practice their english (beware of this it is very common in Roppongi to be led on by a Jgal with plans of keeping her legs closed and dating you for as long as you will put up with herusing you for free english conversation practice).
I love Japan, the food the scenery and above all the culture. Only Japanese men especially middle aged men fuck it up. Some are top blokes but they are extremely rare.It is the very rare gaijin who has even one male jap friend. Hypocracy is practiced in every country but is an artform in Japan. Japan is an incredibly racist country but the racism is subtle, they wont beat you up, abuse you or spit on you in the streets they just wont rent you an apartment or let you into their bar or club. Try starting a business in Japan and you will appreciate why there is virtually no foreign investment (unlike China). Japanese racism is far worse in govt departments than in the private sector, this is why it is so institutionalized. Japanese racists are no greater a perceneforum.xxxe of the population than anywhere else and the average Japanese is probably less racist than the average Queenslander but the racists have carved out a niche in the govt and thus have influence way out of proportion to their numbers. Bar and brothel owners are also disproportionaly racist due to the fact that the Yakuza either directly owns or collects tribute from virtually all such establishments. Many Yakuza see themselves as the most traditional Japanese and dont want gaijin fucking "their women" even if those women are themselves gaijin.
 
I am traveling to Japan, about twice a year on business since 15 years. Bobcat's reports is very accurate. Let Aussieblue live in his dreamland. I have read Ozgaijin posts with great interest, and agree always with his statements.

Since have little time, I don't waste any more time and effort in tryiing to hook up with a non pro, I just go straight to paid sex options and go where I know I can get some sex for money without hassle. I used to go to Yokohama RLD, BJ bars in Shinuya and NewYork New York sopalandin Ueno. As a regular customer, I used to get great service. Unfortunately I heard that not only Seiko 21 and Yokohama RLDs have closed but also NY-NY... I don't know where I will go when I next visit...Any advice welcomed

I also agree with Boncat that I love going to japan, if not for sex, but for the culture, refinement etc.. although I also iunderstand fully Ozgaijin point that living there as a gaijin is surely different than just popping in and out occasionally...
 
You know when I read Bobcat's post, the first persons I thought of were Aussie Blue Eyes and yourself. It seemed his experiences corroborated your accounts of mongering in Japan to a high degree especially his experiences with the clubs.
 
This post is an excellent example of the typical experience of a 2 week visitor to Tokyo. Easy to find gals to date and talk to, not so easy to find sex. Nampa and Starbucks is more for the longer term resident rather than the 2 week tourist and I have always maintained in my posts that Japan isnt an easy country for sex...all I ever said was that it is better than Australia (not hard to be better than Oz).
Full marks to Bobcat for his honesty, this man will always have a lot of credibility with myself and other experienced Tokyo chaps.This post provides the benchmark of reality by which other posts should be judged.
It is all to easy for clowns like aussie blue eyes to brag about all the easy lays he got in Japan because so few punters have spent any length of time there.My countryman aussie blue eyes who is 45 claims to have laid a 19 year old for free in Japan and many not quite so young and has never had to pay on his several brief visits. This idiot claims he just bought them a few drinks and asked them back to his hotel, oh and by the way he cant speak Japanese and thinks english more effective there anyway lol. Any Tokyo chap knows that you never ask a Jgal back to your hotel unless youve been kissing and touching her first. But they couldnt resist old aussie blue eyes they just melted into his arms because he has blue eyes and says nice things to them. Chaps who do you believe, Bobcat or aussie blue eyes??????
 
Hi, was now 2 weeks for vacation in Japan. Mainly in Tokyo (and Kyoto). From my point of view, all this stories about picking up girls are not true, or I had bad luck.

I placed an ad at metropolis (over the internet), got many replies, dated 2 girls, could have sex with one, but the was to clingy and talked about visiting me at home, trying to geht my home address. I did not try on the 2nd one. Both were average looking and around 30. This is a good source if you have time, you will get a lot of answers, emails.

Walking around, looking lost. This defintily did not work for me, and I am not bad looking, I am 38years old, looking much younger. I talked to few girls, asking for directions, etc, but it did not work.

Starbucks: Was quite often in starbucks during day time. Allmost plenty of yound, cute girls, studying english or reading english books or just watching people like me. Talked several times to jap girls, asking for help, asking for recomendations, tryed to invite them for dinner. This is really easier in Switzerland as in Japan.

Roppongi: Did not try any clubs, most of the gaijin friendly clubs had black guys, trying to get you in the club.

Shibuja: I tryed to get in in many clubs, but all the time they told me "Only japanese men". At the beginning i could not believe it, but after trying to get in about 20 clubs, I was frustrated. On the other side, the black guys were very agressive, trying to get me in their club. I checked one, 10'000 Y for all inclusive, fortenatly I checked the details on the menu, this was only for me, 3 free drinks, but I should pay for the girls drink. This was really a bad experince.

Massage Place: This was a totally rip-off. Since it was my last night in Tokyo, I walked around in Shibuja, suddenly a wonderfull looking young woman asked me for a massage. I went to a nearby massage parlor with her, then the "mama" asked me for the money, 10000Y for a massage, including handjob. The massage were really great, the girl wonderfull, but at the end he asked me again for 10000Y for "final relax", I payed and got a handjob. again, bad experience.

Escort: I tryed 2 times club boo. This was really great. I meet the girls in a love hotel and booked the 1st time for 40 Min time with Marina, the service was really great. Great BBBJ. the 2nd time I spend 70 Min with Maya. Unfortenatly she has a lot of "fake body parts", like lashes, contact lenses, eye coulor, etc and a lot of make-up. But her service was great! Sensationell BBBJ, good action. Club Boo is not offering full sex, but you can ask the girl.

Summary: I had 2 great experience with Club Boo Escort girls in love hotels. Nampa, looking lost, Starbucks, etc did not work for me. All interessting clubs were for japanese men only. So regarding sex, Tokyo was a bad experience for me.

Beside sex, I had a great time, excellent food, great people and I met a great japanese woman in Kyoto (educated in the "old traditional manner). I'll be back.
 
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    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Singapore ๐Ÿ’–Filipino ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  33. wonderspa:
    wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒwe have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,Happy Sunday,ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…, friendly nice girl Sunny providing deep tissue to relax oil message back walking hot stone and nice body slide,๐Ÿ…big big boob sexy face Joey is very good looking,open maid,amazing full body massage,really popular,give you warm comfortable time๐Ÿ”ฅ
  34. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Pretty Girl Cici, New Sexy Girl Faye, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌCICI๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
  35. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: Amy & Fiona. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy
  36. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. Alice spa has 3 beauties to choose from today. Open 10am to 9pm: Super SPINNER SUMMER: is a super petite student, very small and slim, 5โ€™3โ€ & super spinner 90 pounds, All Natural 33B Cups & 33โ€ Spinner Hips, very young looking with her pretty baby face. Great at bbbj dfk cim rim cof. Excellent service and Spinner Bod!
  37. Moneylee:
    All season wellness center : Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Sophia,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament Lala,Young girl big boobs beautiful face deep massage Midi , Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage Maggie , Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Sherry,๐Ÿ  address: #5-30 Rambler dr Brampton ,Ontario L6W 1E2โ˜Ž๏ธ4376655510
  38. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  39. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: young girl pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage Anika , Student pretty face nice figure Thai deep massage salon ,Young girl Big breasted saucy naughty Ella, Taiwan girl DD Boobs Thai deep massage lily,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. 2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 .โ˜Ž๏ธ4379857899๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…
  40. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธValentina๐ŸŒธHellen๐ŸŒธNinaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  41. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and sexy Coco and sweet GFE Ella are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer, Sophia & Cindy. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  43. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CHRISTINA & JENNY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded.
  44. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
  45. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Yumi๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ’‹A striking new tall gorgeous Korean model with long, flowing reddish-brown hair cascading down her back and a slender, elegant figure that exudes grace and poise. Yumiโ€™s natural confidence and allure, make her approach
  46. luckywellness:
    295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7, There are two girls working today, Yoyo and Lala. Lala is the new girl, she is very very young and very very thin, both of them provide very good massage and service
  47. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน2 girls ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ Table Shower Sea Salt Bath Body Scrub๐Ÿ˜˜ Japanese girl Nina โค๏ธ Natural Big Boobs 38 DD ๐Ÿ˜˜Pink Mini Nipples Hot body slide, super enjoyable๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜ very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธYou are welcome to make an appoint
  48. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Elena Vietnamese Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Cici Cute Vietnamese Girl Judy Vietnamese Girl Natalie filipina mixed Petite girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  49. DareDevil:
    Blackpink Wellness โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ90 Marycroft Ave. Unit #2, Vaughan, ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌON L4L 5Y1 (647) 395-3188. BEAUTIFUL AND SEXY GIRLS TODAY: ๐ŸŒนMonica, Julie and Beautiful Tiffany on duty๐ŸŒน.
  50. DareDevil:
    ARIA WELLNESS โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธADDRESS: 360 HWY 7, UNIT #6, RICHMOND HILL,647-222-5683 โ™ฅ๏ธโ™ฅ๏ธ(PHONES CALL ONLY, NO TEXT'N AVAILABLE) โ™ฅ๏ธTODAY'S Schedule!โ™ฅ๏ธ Loaded lineup with Beautiful Girls : New Pretty Girl Cici, New Sexy Girl Faye, Magical Mia and Work out๐Ÿ‹๐Ÿšด๐Ÿ’ช Babe Amy! BUY 10 HOURS (GET 11 HOURS) ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน**TODAY'S PICK OF THE DAY IS ๐Ÿญ๐ŸฌCICI๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿญ**
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