depression and TMJ

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I have a loved one who is suffering severe chronic depression, as well as TMJ syndrome and teeth grinding.
I've been exploring craniosacral and think this would be a wonderful addition to the usual treatments. (currently on medication as well as undergoing talk therapy).
I would like to hear other ideas as well. Have you experienced a particularly effective modality for depression and TMJ? What route would you try if this were your client or yourself?
 


Mindful exercise, such as a dynamic form of yoga that includes lots of breath training. Dynamic to get some aerobic benefit and increase endorphin levels. Yoga to emphasize body mechanics and self-awareness, the whole being integrating to achieve good form. Breath training to overcome the poor breathing habits that are endemic to those who have TMJ, clenching, bruxism, breath holding under stress, anxiety disorders, etc. Better breathing permits release of excess tension, allowing greater ease of movement, more flexibility and strength, and greater endurance for continuing practice.

Other stuff can work too, but that's my suggestion. Get this person into a class 2+ times per week, and encourage them to practice daily. I've seen dramatic personal and physical changes in just 2-4 months of this.
 


Mindful exercise, such as a dynamic form of yoga that includes lots of breath training.

Thanks Jason! Oh I am ALL ABOUT yoga!!! I will definately pass this info along.
 


(I sent this message to stonegirl based on a PM conversation we are having. It is a response I wrote to her and I did get her OK to post my reply here for others to learn from.)

The 10-step protocol is excellent for whole body balancing.

Not sure how in depth your training was, but in CSTI we talk about the 'Triad of Compression / Depression'. We find this occurs when three key points of the craniosacral system are all compressed. The three areas are L5-S1, the occipital cranial base, and the spheno-basilar joint. Sometimes when these three areas are compressed we find Idiopathic Endogenous Depression. In some situations compression of one or two of these areas can cause slight depression as well.

Because these are three key areas of the system, compression in these areas can tighten down the system; much like wearing t-shirt that is one or two sizes too small. This effects movement within the system, fluid exchange, and chemical/hormonal balances in the body. Remember that the pituitary gland sits within the body of the sphenoid. So imbalance in the system can have a significant effect on pituitary function.

If you do work on him, even if you do not do a full 10-step, I would do at least the following:
Pelvic Diaphragm release
L5-S1 decompression
ASIS medial compression
Dural tube traction from the sacrum
Thoracic Diaphragm release
Hyoid release
Occipital Cranial Base release (all 4 steps)
Sphenoid compression/decompression

If you have time remaining I'd work other cranial bones. Especially the temporals and mandible considering he has TMJ syndrome and is grinding.

Don't get me wrong, a full 10-step is great. But definitely spend a little more time evaluating/treating these specific areas.

When working, remember to stay light and stay neutral. Allow his body to do the work and show you what needs to be done. At some point you may want to consider having him get a session from an advanced trained therapist who does mouthwork. A compressed vomer has a huge impact on proper sphenoid motion and any hard palate issues can effect the TMJ.

I hope this helps a little bit. If you have any specific questions about techniques or what you are finding in treatment, I'd be glad to answer as best I can.

Good luck!
 


just an update : I have been doing some of the CST tips that Brian has helped me with - and for the first time in my massage career I'm really feeling it - SO COOL!! It is definately helping him relax.
Also - for the TMJ I've started working his masseter - with one hand inside his mouth - I had never done work like this before but let me tell you it is amazing. It's been wonderful for relieving those clenched jaws!!
 


I have a good section on it on my website with links to online articles by many different massage therapists

http://thebodyworker.com/massage-tmj-syndrome.htm

Julie
 


http://www.amazon.com/Balanced-Body-Tissue-Neuromuscular-Therapy/dp/0781735750

This is the book we were issued for Neuromuscular massage in school. I really enjoyed reading the case studies accompanying each Tx. There is a good case study on TMJ. I use some of these techniques and they are very effective.
 
depression and TMJ

I realize this reply is a year or so late, but when I saw it, I just wanted to add my experience. About five years ago, I was severely depressed and was suffering from terrible TMJD. I experienced periodic numbness in my arms, hands, and upper back, as well as headaches and neck pain. The depression preexisted the TMJD, but everything got worse with the pain. I had been to specialists, therapy, slept with an expensive mouthgaurd (which I gnawed in my sleep, cracking it), and still didn't find any relief. I could go on, but I'll just say I was miserable.

Anyway, I saw a friend for an hour of trigger point therapy, and towards the end of the session she somewhat hesitantly asked me if I was up for her to address some trigger points inside my mouth (she warned me it could be quite painful). At that point, it seemed worth a shot.

It was beyond excruciating that first time, but after a few minutes, she was done and everything had changed. Before I was off the table I was marvelling at how much relieving the pain had changed my outlook. Ten minutes later, I began working out plans to go to massage school (which had never been of interest before). I remained free of jaw pain for 9 days, at which point I had a follow up treatment, and then weekly for a couple of months. Five years later, no jaw pain and a career I'm still passionate about. (The few times I have experienced jaw tension from teeth grinding since, I've self treated inside my mouth and eliminated the discomfort.)

In clinic, during school, I had a client with bad TMJD, and he also experienced tremendous relief from trigger point work inside his mouth (of course supervised by my instructor who I had practiced on already). Also, I've used reiki on clients where inside the mouth work wasn't appropriate, or when we just needed a less invasive approach.

That turned out to be a longer post than I had intended, but, if your loved one still has jaw pain, it's definitely worth a shot to go at the trigger points. If your loved one is not still in pain, even better. :)
 
depression and TMJ

Rather than work inside the mouth, I have had success using positional release techniques for the pterygoids. Little to no client discomfort, and I can blend it into a massage without taking time for gloves. :D
 
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    wonderspa: ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒwe have 4young beautiful girls working everyday,open long weekends ensuit shower available ๐Ÿ…, friendly nice girl Sunny providing deep tissue to relax oil message back walking hot stone and nice body slide,๐Ÿ…big big boob sexy face Joey is very good looking,amazing ending,really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  37. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅBEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Massage
  38. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl Anna working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  39. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FLOWER โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd, Unit C6, Markham ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ JULIE (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ SONIA (India), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ AMY (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong, 9PMโ€“2AM) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule โšœ๏ธ bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  40. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St, Vaughan ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI (Vietnam/HK), ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LUXY (Philippines/VN), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ SHERRY (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฌ CANDY (Singapore) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  41. FLOWER Spa โ€“ PINK | Scarborough | TORONTO:
    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA (Iran), ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ JOJO (Hong Kong), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MIKA (Vietnam), ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (Colombia) ๐Ÿ“… bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿฆฉ bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  42. wilson holistic centre:
    new girl works at ๐Ÿ’‹535 Evans Ave today ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-531-6969โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ
  43. Lulu_Villa_Spa:
    Cici Cute Vietnamese Girl Judy is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl Natalie she is CBC/filipina mixed Petite girl Sami is a gorgeous model type Vietnamese Girl โ˜Ž๏ธ647- 446-0886
  44. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Singapore ๐Ÿ’–Filipino ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spa๐Ÿ’‹๐Ÿ’‹โ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  45. Annie Spa:
    Gorgeous Young New Tight Korean Butt Yumi working with Sexy Young Sweet Summer and Sensual & Pleasing Busty Boobs Coco today. Call or text 647-891-9688 or 416-291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธโœ…โœ…
  46. ForeverWarden:
    Sunday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ: Jennifer, Sophia & Cindy. Jennifer is a tall, slim & pretty Asian babe with natural melons and eraser nipples. She is very open minded. Come and give her a try, and youโ€™ll be sure to come back for more. Sophia is a sweet & pretty Chinese lady with natural B Cups and an awe-inspiring smooth rounded ass.
  47. HolidaySpa:
    Sunday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: Amy & Fiona. AMY is an attractive young lady with larger breasts and a nice bottom. She has outstanding oral skills, and is very popular. Donโ€™t miss out on her special skills! FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…HOLIDAY SPA๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด 3517 Kennedy
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Molly 25โ€™s with big buttocks open mind and young pretty Lily 25โ€™s with curve body, young flirty Ivy with 36DD curve body open mind 30โ€™s and cute GFE cute are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. AliceSpa:
    SUNDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. Alice spa has 3 beauties to choose from today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (10am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services. LINA (12:30pm-9pm): is a young Hispanic girl, hot body, C Cups
  50. SugarLoveSpa:
    Sunday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: ANA, CHRISTINA & HANA. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York. ANA is a young, short and sweet lady, 5โ€™1 & 105 Lbs, very tight, with a small to medium booty. Ana is a versatile honey who provides great massage, & can accommodate your needs. CHRISTINA is Spanish, C Cups, 5'3", tall & nice curves, very open minded. HANA is slim
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