Back Problems?

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Hi

Some suggestions that may help...

First of all I would recommend you see Brian Godfrey ITEC MIPTI

Light Touch Therapy (Spinal Touch) Swedish Massage, London N12

One to One Sessions Tel: 020 8445 6990
email: [email protected]

Please mention Sue Bailey recommended you so he knows where you got his details from. I can honestly say it is a great therapy for back problems. Alternatively see a good Chiropractor I never had much luck with Osteopaths myself, however I think I was just unlucky with who I saw. Depending on what area you are in? If you are in London I know an excellent one in Bromley or maybe go to your local health food shop and see if they can recommend someone good.

They helped me a great deal when I had a bad Whip Lash injury, they took an x-ray first to see what was going on (which was not even done in the hospital!). This really helped with their consultation and the type of work they had to do. Many things can slightly throw the spin out and the careful gentle manipulation they offer can really make a difference.

Also a good mattress makes a huge difference, if you have an old one or one too soft maybe an orthopaedic one may help. Also exercise is really important too, maybe something gentle to start off with like Yoga.

Also natural supplements with high active ingredients can help:

Alfalfa which is used for inflammation and also is an excellent natural blood purifier.

Also there is Black cohosh again acts as an anti-inflammatory for arthritic and rheumatic conditions, it acts as a mild analgesic (pain reliever) due to the presence of salicylic acid. Also helps with high blood pressure.

Next is Bromelain derived from Pineapples, is a protein-digesting enzyme that simultaneously kills worms in the gastrointestinal tract. It is considered an adjunctive treatment for inflammation and swelling and has been found to posses neuro-muscular relaxing properties that are beneficial for soothing vascular (blood vessel) linings.

Next Burdock which is well known as a blood purifier and also to soothe inflammation in both internal and external tissues.

Capsicum is a stimulant to increase circulation and cardiovascular activity also helping to lower blood pressure. This also soothes inflammation, enhances the removal of toxins from the body.

These are just a few of the herbs to be found in the product I suggest and there are ten more!

I finally recommend anyone reading this to go and have a look:

low back problems & Prolapsed disks under general health discussions by Anahata

It is well worth reading lots of really good information there.

If you would like further information or my free health newsletter please feel free to email me:

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Hello!

Thank you Mystic for your help. I've read your post and will certainly try a few things. I truly believe that meds and surgery aren't the only solution. We may require them at times... but I think it can be really helpful to look into other avenues.

Again, thank you so much!
 
Hi Marie

You are more than welcome I am glad it was helpful.

Warm Wishes
Sue
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Hi Marie

My Husband over the last 6 years has used Glucosamine Sulphate. He was on 400 ml Ibuprofen but was able to give those up. The body makes Glucosamine Sulphate itself. All I know is that David Wilkie the Gold Medalist swimmer noticed the Americans using it for the injured Athletes in the Olypics. He worked hard to get this over here for us. It is suposed to speed up recovery to joints. Used to be very expensive but it has now come down in price. My husband says you can now get it on perscription now.[sm=dogrun.gif]

Kemana best wishes for a speedy recovery.
 
Hello!

Thank you again Kemana for your advice and input. I really appreciate it!

Indeed, glucosamine seems to be the supplement to take. Everyone talks about it! I will try it.

Athletes also take hot baths with Epsom salts to get rid of aching muscles... and to relax them when they are sore. I have tried that when very much in pain and it did relax the muscles and gave me brief but yet appreciated relief from the pain.

Thank you again!
 
I posted some blub on 'Low Back Probs & Prolapsed disks in General Forums - General Health Discussions - that may be of help.

There's a bit more on Marie's Thread for info on Prolapsed disks on this forum & more on my websites.

It's relatively rare that surgery is needed and it doesn't have a very good track record. I'm not even sure if anyone has actually researched the outcomes.

There's been a small study to suggest that Glucosamine Sulphate helps maintain hieght in the vertebral disks.

We all tend to lose hieght in our disks as time goes by because they gradually lose the ability to absorb & retain water. So take GS & drink plenty of water to future proof them!

And keep moving. Too much rest will cause a loss of strength & tone in the muscles, a build up of inflammation (that you may not feel until you do try & move) and stiffness that may become permanent if appropriate action isn't taken to mobilise the area.
 
Hi Anahata

I read your piece and would recommend anyone reading this to go and have a look:

low back problems & Prolapsed disks under general health discussions

It is well worth reading lots of really good information there.

Thank you for adding your info

Warm Wishes
Sue
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Hello Kemana and Marie,

I am new to this forum. I posted a few queries and my experiences on Marieโ€™s thread on โ€œ โ€œ Prolapsed disc and in lot of pain โ€.
I am also suffering from Prolapsed disc and have started taking Glucosamine. It was suggested to me by my physcian but not by my ortho specialist. I am presently taking 1500 mg of Glucosamine per day. The doc says that I should take this for over 3 months. Please tell me the dosages being taken in your cases.
Kemana, is your husband taking Glucosamine for past 6 years continuosly. Any idea if it helps regenerate the damaged discs. The composition which I am taking is Glucosamine 1500 mg+ MSM 1500mg+Chondroitin 250 mg+ hosts of Vitamins n minerals. Its all clubed together in a sachet of 30 grams.

Best wishes.
Atul.
 
Hello Atul.

I simply take 600 mg of glucosamine every day. Been doing that for almost 6 months now. I'm always careful about supplements; I never go overboard. Most aren't stored by the body anyway and others may actually harm you if you take too much... so my humble opinion is to always follow the recommended dose. If your doc says it's ok to take 1500 mg for three months then, go ahead. Should always be under medical surveillance anyway. I was told 600 mg in my case was more than enough.

You must keep active too. As soon as I started to hobble around the house, the better I got. I was in excruciating pain... but things started to improve just then.

Good luck!

Marie
 
Thanks Marie.
I had read about your pain and recovery in the thread started by you. BTW, has your doc allowed you to bend forward. Has your pain gone totally? Could you please share the exercises recommended to you by your doc. I mentioned mine in your thread.
I will also consult some other orhto specialist about verification of the dosage in my case. I feel it embarrassing to ask my present ortho whether I should start it coz he might feel offended. Yes, moving about does help. Initially, lot of my friends suggested total rest but that didn't help much. The kind of pain as expressed you and others was felt by me 2 or 3 times about 10 years back over a period of say 2-3 years. Those days I use to play lots of tennis and badminton( about 2 hrs daily in the morning ). Taking rest for about 2- 3 days used to relieve the pain and then I used to start Tennis and all those forward bending exercises. It was only lately after I had stopped playing for past 10 years that this pain started in my left hip which got diagnosed as disc prolapse. Looking back and the kind of pain described by members here and also by some of my friends....I feel that the pains which I had experienced about 10 years back must have been due to disc prolapse.....had I not neglected that condion then...perhaps I would have been in better shape now( coz I could have avoided lifting heavy stuff, forward bending exercises, badmonton etc ). This present condition developed when recently I was packing and shifting my household items to another house....lots of forward bending and lifting heavy stuff must have taken its toll.
With my experience I would suggest to readers of this thread that please don't take back pains especially severe back pains casually even if they vanish after 2-3 days. Just a simple x-ray could reveal disc prolapse or any degeneartion there in( MRI only needed to see the extent of nerve pressings etc ). Timely precautions can help future pains to a large extent.
Also, as I read on the net that most of the disc prolapse( say >90% ) takes place between L4-L5 and between L5-S1. Most of the times it happens in the mornings....the reason not known. I feel that it may be coz since it is said that before playing in the morning one must do some warm up exercises........also not lift heavy stuff or do strenous work within an hour of waking up. Therefore, we must be careful in the mornings even if we are fit to avoid strenous works.
Just my thoughts.
Best wishes.
Atul.
 
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    PINK FS โ€“ 3300 McNicoll Ave ๐Ÿ“ž 416-299-5515 / 416-817-3839 ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท ELINA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ HELEN (3PM), ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingpinklove
  35. FLOWER Spa - BLUEXADO | Thornhill | VAUGHAN:
    BLUEXADO FS โ€“ #06-1102 Centre St ๐Ÿ“ž 416-357-9797 / 416-678-8668 ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ KELLY, ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡พ AMY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ MY LINH (2AM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookingbluexadolove
  36. Spa in Markham:
    GOLDEN FS โ€“ 8380 Kennedy Rd ๐Ÿ“ž 905-258-0777 / 416-688-6886 ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡บ VANESSA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ฐ CICI, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ ROXY, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ LANA, ๐Ÿ‡ป๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ด MEGAN (9PM) ๐Ÿ”Ž View Schedule: bit.ly/flowers_schedule ๐Ÿ›Ž๏ธ Booking Now: bit.ly/bookinggoldenlove
  37. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  38. AliceSpa:
    FRIDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 ladies waiting for you. Two Very Hot ladies (Qiqi & Summer) have returned to Alice spa today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (11:30am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services.
  39. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10to11.ensuit shower room available ๐Ÿ…beautiful young Jessica deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone.amazing bj๐Ÿ…long hair vietname Amy is very good looking,slim body ,open maid, everything she can provide ๐ŸŒนbeautiful sexy face ,big big boob,strong massage,happy the end,very friendly ,really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŒน
  40. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ˜˜Table shower ใ€body scrub ใ€ Sea salt bath๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ 3 girl Cherry (Student)๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜โ€œcharming breasts.โ€beautiful curvy hips.โ€very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mimi & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mimi is a nice slim lady with a big bottom, & great oral skills to take you to paradise. Sasa is a slim & sweet Korean lady, about 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
  43. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธSamyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  44. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธJessica๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธCindy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, LINA & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. LINA is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: KELLY, LINDA, LUNA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž KELLY is a young Singaporean lady, slim with C Cups & liberal skills. LINDA is a beautiful young Asian mix girl, 60Kgs with big D Cup boobs with pointy nipples, very friendly, bbbj and many services. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE
  47. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young Taiwanese Victoria slime 26โ€™s open mind and young flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open mind,young popular Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and pretty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. EMSpa_schedule:
    Hey! Where have you been? Today (Friday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Carla ๏ธ, Cici ๐Ÿฅฐ, Opal ๐Ÿฅฐ and Vicky ๐Ÿคฉ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  50. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Amber๐Ÿ˜Our newest girl at Annie Spa directly from Hong Kong! Amber is a sexy blend of pleasure and sensuality leaving you wanting more of her erotic services. Amber is a tall slim busty girl with natural 34C breasts
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