160 is the NEW 200!

[Beckei]

but is the current condition such that we are in poontango or is it poontangdation?

ok, very few will probably get this, but with all the econ talk I couldn't resist.

 

[delphispolaris]

My .02...

the 'strenthening' of the WON against the dollar doesn't mean the dollar is weakening....

if across the board the dollar was down vs the Euro, yen etc....

The WON has bounced a bit bc there has been some 'investment' from inside Korea through foreign currency (Hong Kong for example) back in to Korea which has stimiulated things (makes it seem like Korea is a good place to invest).

Basically a few Korean WHALES (casino language) have made some circuitous investments into Korea to help get the WON up from the 1500's (vs the dollar) to the mid 1200's...I don't fully understand how this all works, but...

back on point to the discussion...looking at 1 currency versus another doesn't paint the complete picture, so although TB is right and the WON has bounced as it relates to the USD, Golem is also right that the USD in general is stronger than it was months ago...

but wtf to I know ;-)

 

[maryannsamaan]

What is service like in these other countries? Why do you think it is not offered here?

I am not sure we will be seeing the influx of talent we once got back in the 90's and early 2000 before the Bush years took their fucking toll. The word is out in Asia, America is on the decline and the streets are no longer paved with gold all the boys on Wall street have taken it all and left none for anyone else. So hot chics working MP's from abroad, probably not going to happen. Now, girls made in the USA, we might be seeing more of that, as cute college girls find it hard to get jobs and pay back the student loans and credit cards. We may end up with a demographic shift. For whatever reason, USA putang doesn't do it for me.


As for a huge leap in demand for better service, not sure, I think the average monger doesn't care- I think they are acting on impulse. See hot girl, me get girl. Cheap hot robots are the shit.

I would rather pay 200 for a good time than to get the rush at 160 but the average guy probably thinks, "what do I need the hour for, I cum in 10 minutes?" I think I want to get value out of this fucker. I want to delay my orgasm until the grandfather clock start chiming. It also delivers a much better orgasm with much more impressive loads, than a multi-pop lay. The secret of tantra!!! Why do you think they call me the monkey lord? Because I am a swami of sex.
All of these minute men leave the girls unsatisfied, the monkey lord steps in and they lose their fuckng minds.

 

[Go Out with Your Fro Out]

I don't really think they're competing with other parts of the world.[/QUOTE


haha. good point. blah. their service needs upgrading is my point.

 

[lil cookie]

I don't really think they're competing with other parts of the world.

 

[ickpzqkz]

KMPS or AMPS need a different approach. They need to change what they offer to be more competitive to what you can get in Europe, Canada and other parts of the world.

I would wager the vast majority of this board would pay more than the standard 200 for service akin to what you can get in London and Seoul or Toronto.

This type of service is simply hard to find in NYC.

For the R&T places, they just need to get away from these 40+ year old talent and mongers will flock in droves.

This business is tough, but a little adjustment could bring volume to historic levels.

 

[sixxy]

No need to bitch out now and go private. I for one am enjoying the high brow debate for the price of NYC pussy.

There is no name calling and childish antics, both sides are trying to present as much information to back up the opinions.

So gentlemen please continue with your ongoing debate on how all the external factors are influencing the loosening of the current price of robotic pussy.

 

[missjaimy]

The graph is based on currency exchange rates and has been plotted so that the average mathematically literate person can see the trend. Maybe instead of just reading articles you should look at the numbers. There are a lot of open questions when someone writes something like this. "What time frame are they talking about?", "What are they comparing?"....

The relevant comparison was how the dollar was doing against the Won RECENTLY- like the past 4 weeks... It is declining against the Won. What is the expected trend? With the stimulus package coming on line and dollars flooding the market it is likely to continue to decline versus currencies who's countries are not bailing out their banks.

I am not an economics major or MBA but I don't think it is that difficult for an average person to figure out.


Please PM me any further argument and spare the board the static. This is not the point of the thread or the board.

This is the putang exchange not the currency exchange.

Peace to all mongers,
TB

 

[Da ProfessorX]

Oil tops $51 on US inventories report
Oil prices climb as crude inventories come in below analyst estimates

Mark Williams, AP Energy Writer
Wednesday April 8, 2009, 12:38 pm EDT

Benchmark crude for May delivery rose $2.15 to $51.30 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange. Some analysts suggested the rally came from traders covering bets that the price of oil would fall.
For the week ended Friday crude supplies increased by 1.7 million barrels, or 0.5 percent, to 361.1 million barrels, 15.2 percent above year-ago levels, the Energy Department's Energy Information Administration said in its weekly report. Analysts had expected a boost of 2.3 million barrels, according to a survey by Platts, the energy information arm of McGraw-Hill Cos.

"We're swimming in this stuff," oil analyst and trader Stephen Schork said after the report was released, noting that crude levels already were at 16-year highs before the release of the report.

Gasoline inventories rose by 600,000 barrels, or 0.3 percent, to 217.4 million barrels, 1.4 percent below year-ago levels. Analysts expected stockpiles of the motor fuel to fall by 1.5 million barrels.
At the same time, U.S. refineries ran at 81.8 percent of total capacity on average, an increase of 0.1 percentage point from the prior week. Analysts expected capacity to increase 0.25 percentage point to 81.95 percent...
Prices were lower before the government data came out. Addision Armstrong of Tradition Energy said he believes the rally was a result of traders covering positions in which they were betting that oil would fall.

But after reaching $52.64 Thursday, oil has fallen every day until Wednesday. Jim Ritmassageplanetusch of Ritmassageplanetusch and Associates said oil prices have been following the stock market lower the past few days.

"Oil also has been hurt by a strengthening dollar, he said. Because crude is bought and sold in dollars, a barrel of crude becomes cheaper if the dollar moves higher."
"It's a combination of a strong dollar and a weakening stock market. That's a pretty bearish combo for the energy complex," he said.
Other government data released Wednesday showed wholesalers cut their inventories in February by the steepest amount in more than 17 years as companies struggled to reduce stockpiles amid slowing sales.... "


Just one of the many acrticles & reports [redacted here] on the exchange markets I read daily! Wrong guy to talk to about "the facts" unless you have some.
The question is: what's the trend? The dollar will fall eventually as a result of there being so many dollars in circulation but that hasn't happened yet.
The Korean currency has continued its fall against the dollar for the last few months.
As far as other places that have the 160 price-tag?.. they are not advertising their prices yet.. BTW neither is V.C. right now.

 

[+Evie+]

See my edits- and look at the graph.
The facts are the facts...

 

[:) (: :( ):]

Hey ...over here! This is the thread you crashed!!

 

[AcexyMogLoogy]

Wrong & nope ....

 

[xvlevlze]

Demand for some things are not radically elastic- I am not sure where Putang is in that spectrum.

If they drop price by 40% what increase in business would compensate depends on the level of business they were doing before the price change and how much they were charging. The less business they were doing the more sense it makes to drop the price, the more business they were doing the more sense it makes for them to keep the price. It is more than likely everyone is going to have to settle for less and face the reality that we have been living in a bubble for a decade or more.

Anyway, 160 putang has been out there for ages. I think what hurts KMP's a lot is the very boring scripted service you get from most of them. A lot of guys get lured by the hot pictures but if the girl is a robot it will never be worth it.

I don't think America is the land of Milk and Honey to Koreans anymore and many are packing their bags for Europe or elsewhere instead. The value of the dollar has slipped radically in the past month even relative to the Won.
Have you noticed how much recycling of talent is going on? The over supply is probably more a function of slipping demand.

But who cares about all of this eco talk? There are two places posted so far offering 1 hour of putang for 160 24/7, VC and KobiotoNY and one spot for the weekend, E4A.

Is it a trend? It might be. The important thing is hearing stories about these spots.

It is tight all around but where it counts most is having a tight putang.

TB

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Note the slope in the value of the dollar versus the Won from late-Feburary to today. Any analyst would consider that a recent steep decline in value of the dollar versus the won. That's just the facts...

 

[Paz]

I respectfully agree.

 

[aBebraZib]

Asian, Russian, American - Bangkok, London, Montreal..

 

[yeamen.]

I think good points- the only thing I would add is that some girls def. do not want super high volume. So as long they can maintain a floor volume now, no real reason to drop price.

I would add one more thing to this thread. I don't feel the need to pay high prices to feel good. I am perfectly happy to see prices fall. I know I am not the only one on here with "world" experience (including years living in SE Asia), but I disagree with a lot of the posts on here that KMP's are particularly overpriced. $200 for one of the "icons" is DIRT cheap. You can pay around that (if you are white or japanese) for a high end girl in Bangkok who works off the same basic script. In bangkok, FFS, where everything is comparatively inexpensive by leaps and bounds. (There, of course, you can also pay $120 to have a 3some with 2 girls ugly enough to work at Golds that do bbjcim/greek/facials, etc.) London would be a lot more expensive and Montreal is no bargain either. The best-looking KMP girls compare very favorably in terms of looks with the girls anywhere (IMO) and it is some combo of looks/charm/gfe that guys will pay more for.

In bangkok, you can go to the beer garden on soi 7 and there will be a bunch of guys standing around bitching that "pussy is never worth more than 500 baht" (around 15 bucks) mostly because they don't have more than that to spend. That's fine, but there are a lot of guys with a lot of money (I'm not one of them) that will pay the $200+ for miss june from the Thai penthouse. Same thing here in NYC. More than enough guys with enough coin that dropping $200 for Tera/Pinky is no big deal. Hell, a "high-end" asian r&t in NYC with a woman not as attractive can run $120 -140 and nude r&t with a white chick $200. I am guessing the girls below the headliners are probably taking the worst of the hit. Anyway my 2 cents and like I said I am not a proponent of higher prices and would be thrilled to see lower prices but I think things need to be in the proper perspective.

 

[Pompal 09.]

basic economics right? lower prices mean greater volume but can mean higher total $. just have to find the point with the greatest area under the demand curve. given where the won is now, for girls repatriating $ to korea, i suspect the total take is definitely higher now even at 160 than a year or so ago. but if their expenses are in dollars (us shopping, gambling, host bars) then the take is likely less.

previously the girls had all the volume they could handle (or more) at $$ in midtown. but now with traffic off the clearing price seems lower...to get rid of the excess capacity. an idle hour for a girl is like an empty airline seat...once that time has passed, that capacity is lost.

i also still suspect the lowering of the visa requirements for kgirls is increasing supply (and hence costs to the shops to procure talent) so its a supply side issue as well

 

[Modestos]

i havent gotten into 120 places myself. but asian only places are generally 130 or 140 in flushing and ctown.

 

[blackhat]

Glad to see that prices are coming down too; and they could even come down more when you think in terms of what you are paying for a session; and what most of us make per hour. It would be nice to make $160/hour. My guess is that not many of us do.
So a toast to lower prices.
If prices would come down more, I suspect that these girls would be making a lot more money.

 

[Crystal?of?Iris]

I totally agree with the new prices. Times are a little tighter now for alot of guys. But what really amazes me on how much some of the girls still charge in these times