Disillusioned, in pain and anxious about future

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To whom ever maybe listening,

i'm very knew to this forum thing so excuse my etiquette

Two years ago i had a slight twinge in my left leg and for a while i thought nothing of it until somebody told me i had sciatica especially when my big toe became numb. After a trip to the specialist and an MRI(how horrible are they?!?) I was diagnosed with a prolapsed disc. The specialist was'nt very helpful, at least i have realised that since reading thro this forum. He told me about a discectomy, fusion of discs and walking but apart from that there was nothing that could be done for me. I went home to my wife and almost cried. After a few months of pain I went to the physiotherapist. He performed some manipulation on me and it seemed to loosen the whole area. I must admit that in the beginning i did not experience much pain more a stiffness. Anyway he loosened the area up and told me to do these "rotations" twice a day along with a form of pressup which i duly did and everything was fine. However this September my wife and i had our first child and ever since then i have been on a downward spiral. I'm on substantial anti/inflams which turn my stomach but do relieve the pain. Im disillusioned because i dont know where to turn now, I dont know much about the injury, my options, am I destined for a life of pain? I am quite active every day(my job has me on my feet foor up to 10 hr aday) despite the pain but it is beginning to get on top of me. Do i return to phyisio, consider the operation or plod along on the meds indefinately???

hopefully some of you would share your vast experience wth me.

Yours in anticipation
Aidan
 
hi i would try to find a good spinal surgeon at a good orthopaedic hospital,he will give you the best advise what can done for you.You probably need a mri scan to find out what the exact problem is.i sympathise with you totally, i have been in back pain myself 4 four years,i have a degenerative disc which needs to be opperated on.people dont understand back pain unless they have had it themselfs.i know how you are feeling,let me know how you get on,Tink
 
If the manipulative physio helped before, then there's a good chance it would again. I can's say as that I would advise the stretches on your front though as this can aggravate. Not so much the disc itself as they are very few, if any pain receptors in intervertebral discs, but extending the lumbar spine backwards tends to compress the facet joints that are probably already irritated and causing most of the pain.

Surgery is and should be a last resort treatment and any good consultant would tell you this. There are certain signs that indicate suregery i.e. testable - loss of power, numbness, control of bowel, bladder, etc.

Pain is not one of them.

Here's a couple of articles I put together that explain more.

http://fp.osteopath.plus.com/articles/advice_4_back_pain.htm

http://fp.osteopath.plus.com/holistic-centre/articles/ost&backpain.htm

I tend to recommend a neurologist, rather than an orthopaedic consultant, if I consider that they may need surgery. Also, ask about their success rate and the general success rate of the procedure before committing.

If the physio doesn't help, then suggest trying an osteopath before heading down the road of surgery.

And.
 
Aidan

I suffered with debilitating back pain for years and tried everything and everybody!

The only treatment that worked for me was from a Chiropractor.

For what it's worth, I truly sympathise.

Regards
Wendy x
 
How about getting some core stability from your muscles to support your back. I'm a Pilates teacher and deal with long term chronic back pain patients and the reults are always rewarding.
Sharon.
 
Hi andy just to echo what others have already said and say that the arrival of your baby will add alot of stress and invairably increase the pain that you have.
Its made it even more difficult to spend mony on yourself in terms of finding relief.
So please do be aware that you have lots of options physio, osteo, massage pilaties before you go down the surgical route.As you have already found consultants rarely advise the alternative way but much of it is already posted on healthypages.
regards steve
 
Really want to recommend a kinesiologist. kinesiology began as a treatment for sports injuries and has evolved from there. have personally seen some amazing and sustained recoveries (including myself,my partner and my daughter) amongst my immediate circle but it is important that you get a good one, as with all therapists. contact A.S.K. for details of practitioners. For the stress of a new baby, add 5 drops of lavender oil to your bath and take the baby in with you!
 
Hiya Aidan.
I would definitelt echo those recommendations of other folks.... surgery is the last resort. I have been working with a girl who had a spinal op for a prolapsed disc and she is worse than she was before due to adhesions.
Core stability certainly is a good option... go to a regestered Pilates teacher, perhgaps one to one sessions. Often back issues are caused by a shortening of muscles on the front of the body and the hip flexor muscles can pull the low back into a lordosis and create pain. Find someone who can work the muscles for you and also someone who can do adjustments to alleviate pressure.

Best of luck.
 
aiden,

I heartily agree with the emphasis on looking at other options prior to surgery. Whether it be a manipulative therpy or an educational one, go to a surgeon and 9/10 they will offer what they do "surgery" which is pretty final.

Aiden did you injure your back? and did something happen after the birth that made it worse? have a look at the links below and just become educated about what is happening in your body and the options:

http://somatics.com/conditions.htm#Sciatica
http://somatics.com/appendix.htm
http://somatics.com/chronic_back_pain.htm

Manipulation could be: Osteopathy, Chiropractic, Mctimoney Chiropractic, Physiotherapy (check they have had extra training in manipulation as the other discipline listed specialise in this area)

Bodywork: Massage, Myofascial work, Structural Integration

Education: Alexander technique, Feldenkrais, Somatics

There are some good movements for the back pain on the link below, all they require you do is lie on a firm carpeted surface, and be gentle and aware.

http://www.somatics.com/back_pain.htm


Take care aiden
 
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    FRIDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿต๐Ÿด-๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿด๐Ÿต๐Ÿด. 3 ladies waiting for you. Two Very Hot ladies (Qiqi & Summer) have returned to Alice spa today. Open 10am to 9pm: CLOUDIA (11:30am-9pm): is Vietnamese, young, petite 5'2" & 96 Lbs, B Cup, best rim deep bbbj cim. $40 Room Fee + $80 (incl bbbj & fs). +$20 for rim/cim. Excellent open minded services.
  39. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบwelcome to wonder spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-5000-800,L6a4H8๏ผŒopen10to11.ensuit shower room available ๐Ÿ…beautiful young Jessica deep tissue to relax massage back walk,hot stone.amazing bj๐Ÿ…long hair vietname Amy is very good looking,slim body ,open maid, everything she can provide ๐ŸŒนbeautiful sexy face ,big big boob,strong massage,happy the end,very friendly ,really popular,must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐ŸŒน
  40. Lulu1980:
    Phoenix Blossom Spa ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน3 girls ๐Ÿ˜˜Table shower ใ€body scrub ใ€ Sea salt bath๐Ÿ‘5124 Dundas St W Etobicokeโ˜Ž๏ธ416-817-3366๐Ÿ‘ 3 girl Cherry (Student)๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜โ€œcharming breasts.โ€beautiful curvy hips.โ€very provocative service๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜, professional super Luna deep tissue massage, has therapeutic effect to loosen bones and relieve muscle pressure and will bring you unexpected service effects, she will bring you a little surprise๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜โค๏ธ You are welcome to make an appointment at any time or walk in the
  41. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  42. ForeverWarden:
    Friday at ๐Ÿซฆโค๏ธ๐Ÿ”ด๐ŸŸฅโ™พ๏ธ๐“•๐“ž๐“ก๐“”๐“ฅ๐“”๐“ก ๐“ข๐“Ÿ๐“โ™พ๏ธ๐ŸŸฅ๐Ÿ”ดโค๏ธ๐Ÿซฆ 2190 Warden Ave, Unit 201, Scarborough ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿด๐Ÿฌ๐Ÿฌ-๐Ÿณ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด๐Ÿณ : Bobo, Mimi & Sasa. Bobo is a small, slim and sexy lady, petite with all natural busty melons for your enjoyment. Mimi is a nice slim lady with a big bottom, & great oral skills to take you to paradise. Sasa is a slim & sweet Korean lady, about 5โ€™4โ€ with C Cups.
  43. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธKim๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธSamyCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  44. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAletta๐ŸŒธJessica๐ŸŒธSelina๐ŸŒธNina๐ŸŒธCindy Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Friday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: FIONA, LINA & CINDY. FIONA is a slim hottie with long dark hair, great melons and ass, and nice services. LINA is very well known for her great services and her impressive shapely ass. Come and see why! You will be glad you did. CINDY is a slim & incredibly sexy lady
  46. SugarLoveSpa:
    Friday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: KELLY, LINDA, LUNA & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž KELLY is a young Singaporean lady, slim with C Cups & liberal skills. LINDA is a beautiful young Asian mix girl, 60Kgs with big D Cup boobs with pointy nipples, very friendly, bbbj and many services. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE
  47. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young Taiwanese Victoria slime 26โ€™s open mind and young flirty Tina 30โ€™s with curly body open mind,young popular Lily 25โ€™s with curve body and pretty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. EMSpa_schedule:
    Hey! Where have you been? Today (Friday), our amazing attendants are Ada ๐Ÿ’œ, Carla ๏ธ, Cici ๐Ÿฅฐ, Opal ๐Ÿฅฐ and Vicky ๐Ÿคฉ. Call us at โ˜Ž๏ธ (905) 479-6668 โ˜Ž๏ธ to book your favourite and head on over to 7665 Kennedy Road, Unit 4, Markham!
  50. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Amber๐Ÿ˜Our newest girl at Annie Spa directly from Hong Kong! Amber is a sexy blend of pleasure and sensuality leaving you wanting more of her erotic services. Amber is a tall slim busty girl with natural 34C breasts
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