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Have you seen the article in this month's Massage Magazine about the Chubinsky Method? It sounds intriguing to save your hands and that the client supposedly can't tell that you are using a tool.

What do you think about this as an investment? Supposedly only 3 people have returned it out of 600. :smt102

I would hope the DVD is useful.
 


Hi Denise,
I seen that article too and I thought it looked very interesting..kinda pricey..but it would be worth it..I cannot afford it right now but maybe
someday.. :)
 


I searched and called some of the people that left testomials on his site but I never connected with anyone that used it directly. I did talk to an ex? of one therapist and she said the guy loved the tool. She thought you could do much the same with just regular stones but admitted she wasn't a therapist. I don't think that I'd spend $180 w/o some one giving me real feedback first.
 


I saw that as well and as much as I would love something else to extend my career, until I see some first-hand unbiased reviews, I'm not willing to spend that kind of money on a tool..
 


Hi, I recently graduated school and passed my state national and just wanted to tell you that I purchased this "nobble" which is the chubinsky method after my instructor had shown us it. My instructor happened to be one of the people who wrote part of that article in massage magazine. I can't tell you enough how fantastic this tool is. I have used it on over 100 clients that I have worked on, and every single client has absolutely loved it, and always asks what is it you're doing with your hands? That feels sooo good. They never know you are using a tool. It does come with a DVD also, but I was fortunate enough to have my instructor Bob Storey, show me how to use it also. It definitely saves your hands and it releases negative ions which go through deeply to the client, and you don't even have to use much pressure. Any time clients have had some really tight muscles, I have used this nobble and the part of the body I would have worked on went from solidly hard to soft as butter. I really am happy I invested in it, as I think it makes a huge difference to my massage.

It is very different to just using stones, or any other object actually, as I have tried many other tools just to compare - and let me tell you there absolutely is no comparison.

Hope this has helped out a little.

Lynette.
 


Thanks Lynette!
I appreciate that you took the time to write. Is there something specifically you do with the tool that you can't do with something else?

Anyone else?
 


The chubinsky method "nobble" is made of ebonite and releases negative ions - and this is what makes a huge difference to using any other kind of tool such as stones etc. Also this tool has been made specifically to fit ergonomically in your hand so that it feels like it's part of your hand and the client can't tell the difference either. There is no strain in using this tool, and all I can tell you is that every single client I've worked on has loved my massage and I know a big part of that is thanks to the chubinsky method. It saves your thumbs and hands and my instructor said that oftentimes massage therapists have burn out after so many years with their thumbs or hands of doing massage, but this tool saves your hands and my instructor Bob Storey is proof of that as he has been using this tool for many years now.

Hope this helps.
 


Thanks for the feedback Lynetteanne. It sounds like a good investment and I am thinking of getting one. Does the DVD help in offering ways to use it?
 


I just checked it out on the web and it sounds really intriguing!! I would also love to hear additional reviews from people on MassagePlanetL to see what they think of it.
 
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I love the idea of this tool as I've been looking for something to incorporate into massage. I've used hot stones, selenite wands and have been looking at bambo massage but am not completely sold on that yet. This is something that seems like it would be more natural for me to incorporate. $180 is a lot, but with the 60 day guarantee, if it doesn't work well for me I'll just return it.
 
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Just adding the link so anyone interested in this thread can easily access what is being talked about:

  • Vladimir Chubinsky Method Massage - http://www.vcmassage.com/
 
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I didn't think I could take anything named 'Chubinsky' seriously (teeheee)then I read the review and the website - I'm intrigued and have put it on my wishlist for 2012.
 
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COMT said:
I didn't think I could take anything named 'Chubinsky' seriously.

I thought the very same! It's really no wonder word hasn't spread about this tool ::snerk:: as he stated in his interview for Massage Magazine. Hoping I get this for a late xmas / early bday present!
 
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I've known about this for awhile. I cant just run out and purchase every tool that catches my eye. Hopefully someone who purchases this will post their thoughts. I would love to hear from a therapists point of view!!
 
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GreenDragonfly said:
I've known about this for awhile. I cant just run out and purchase every tool that catches my eye. Hopefully someone who purchases this will post their thoughts. I would love to hear from a therapists point of view!!

I'm ordering one today, hoping to have it for Christmas so I can start working with it soon. I'll be sure to post my experience with it.
 
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WARNING: Rant

If your thumbs or whatever are suffering, you've been neglecting your self-care, recovery, and body mechanics. If you aren't sure how to change those for the better, get help! Grabbing a tool isn't going to correct the more fundamental problems, though it may mask it for a while longer.

I have never met a massage tool that did something my hands and body can't do better. If a client's body isn't responding well to what you are doing, it means you need to improve your understanding of anatomy, physiology, neurology, and how to apply manual therapies to elicit a more positive response. Sometimes you need to completely rethink your whole approach and start from scratch with an entirely different strategy and set of goals. Clinical reasoning is key.

Tissues do not need to be pressed harder, scraped/frictioned more forcefully, made much hotter or colder, or otherwise forced to change. They will change themselves just fine in response to lighter pressure, more gentle handling, and being given opportunities to safely increase mobility and function. Work with it, not on it.

In any case, the miniscule emission of "negative ions" from the ebonite is laughable and has absolutely no measurable impact on human tissues. It sounds like good marketing copy, but it's a snake oil claim.

Rant Over.
 
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JasonE said:
If your thumbs or whatever are suffering, you've been neglecting your self-care, recovery, and body mechanics.

I wholeheartedly agree with you on this and hopefully this is something that was covered thoroughly for everyone in basic massage theory and training. I've been practicing for more than six years and have routinely used my forearms for the majority of my strokes and olecranon to sustain deeper pressure, using my thumbs minimally and usually if that is the only thing that "fits".

I have never met a massage tool that did something my hands and body can't do better.

This is something I have also always agreed with. I have taken many massage courses and workshops over the years and have had teachers who love to use tools and have demonstrated the way that they use them in treatment to lessen wear and tear on their hands. Everything from bongers to thumb tools to tuning forks, etc. I tried it out and didn't agree with it for my own personal practice. In fact, I still believe that nothing replaces human touch. But my thoughts don't change the success of my teachers and the way that they practice massage. However, after years of working full-time + (5 - 7 clients a day, on average, six days a week), in my personal experience, body mechanics and self care will not be enough for me to sustain longevity in a field that I love. That may not be true for you, but that is what I am finding to be the case for me. I do not seek to replace the usage of my primary tools, instead I'd like to find something complimentary. What appeals to me about the orginal topic of this thread is that it provides heat, is not wood, plastic, or a stone that must be heated seperately. It also looks like it will be comfortable for me to work with and for my clients to experience.

Tissues do not need to be pressed harder, scraped/frictioned more forcefully, made much hotter or colder, or otherwise forced to change. They will change themselves just fine in response to lighter pressure, more gentle handling, and being given opportunities to safely increase mobility and function. Work with it, not on it.

The foundation on which my deep tissue training was built upon, and again I agree. I've converted many clients to deep tissue work who had received it previously by therapists who did not have that same understanding of "working with, not on". They did not know that deep tissue work does not go hand in hand with force (pain). I've also had clients who do believe that they require force, that if it doesn't hurt it's not working, and I have to talk them through the way that I work as I work so they can see how much more effective it is.

In any case, the miniscule emission of "negative ions" from the ebonite is laughable and has absolutely no measurable impact on human tissues. It sounds like good marketing copy, but it's a snake oil claim.

I must admit that this is something I'm not knowledgable about and it is the least of my interests in regard to the product this topic was started to discuss. However, I know many clients and therapists who enjoy the usage of crystal salt lamps for the negative ion benefits. Maybe it's beneficial, maybe it's placebo. It's not for me to judge something that works for someone else.

As a therapist who often seeks different ways to practice, even if it's simply taking a one day workshop on a modality that I've already studied for the purpose of learning it again with a fresh perspective from someone different. It keeps me excited about my work and gives my long time clients something new to experience. I'm looking forward to working with this tool and incorporating it into my practice.
 
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JasonE said:
WARNING: Rant

If your thumbs or whatever are suffering, you've been neglecting your self-care, recovery, and body mechanics. If you aren't sure how to change those for the better, get help! Grabbing a tool isn't going to correct the more fundamental problems, though it may mask it for a while longer.

I have never met a massage tool that did something my hands and body can't do better. .

I understand what you are saying. I am not in pain at all and this is not the reason I am interested. I'm not a 'purist' and I think the idea is fine for those who shun all products to brag that they use their hands only. I think that's fantastic! For myself, I use certain slow techniques on certain people that are often assisted by the use of a tool. Hot or warm rocks are a favorite. I use them when the need or desire arises. I love it, the clients love it and it gets the results I am after without causing damage or discomfort for either of us. win win!

I suppose it is a rant of my own to see the use of tools disparaged as if only those who are less skilled use them. No doubt I have far to go in my career, learning new things all the time! But for some things, to each their own!
 
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