Bartering - how much do you do?

Adrianna Q

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I barter for a LOT of things! Bodywork of course, but also housekeeping, voice lessons for my daughter, childcare for my other daughter and recently for graphic design and signage, and professional framing for a painting I got on eBay.

I love the barter system, cause it allows me to get what I need without a cash outlay. On the other hand, sometimes my week is filled with barter clients and not many paying clients! :shock:

I need to be careful how much I wish for! :lol:
 


I do a little, a very very little. I trade with the lady who owns the children's-clothing consignment store -- we basically pay nothing for clothing or playthings for our son. And I occasionally trade with a woman who owns a couple of large luxury vacation rental homes. Every now and again I take my whole family (8 people if my side, 10 if my husband's side) for a long luxe weekend, paying nothing but food and gas, and it is heaven. None of us do "real" vacations these days, between ailing parents and small children, so 3 or 4 getaways a year is a great recharge and something I'm very willing to give up cash for.
 


Hey Amy,
I barter for guitar lessons, personal training, horseback riding, and I'm hoping my new CPA will barter with me. And of course I trade massage with a couple other MTs.

I love the whole idea because although there are weeks that seem heavy with barter clients, each one of those people knows a whole lot of other people! I'm hoping my guitar teacher, who comes in for his first massage next week, will tell his bandmates and the other guys at the shop where he teaches. My personal trainer is also another good potential source of referrals.

I figure barter is the cheapest and most effective form of advertising.
 


Currently: Chiropractor, carpet cleaning (we have 4 pets), web site design and maintenance, with someone to sit at the desk on Xmas and Valentine's Day and sell gift certificates.
And naturally, with other Mt's.
In the past: cleaning lady, lawyer, personal trainer, electrician, Feng Shui practitioner, yoga instructor, esthetician.
I would really like to trade with a Dr or a nurse at a medical spa to get certain procedures done (like laser hair removal).
I don't schedule trades during "prime time" when I get a lot of demand for massages.
 


Ella Menneau said:
Hey Amy,
I figure barter is the cheapest and most effective form of advertising.

Very good point!

I forgot I've also bartered with my chiropractor, for yardwork, jewelry, hair services and I just got a far infrared body wrap a few weeks ago. It was *awesome* BTW. :)

I use CL a lot to find barterwork!
 


I barter with my hair stylist. And once in a while trade for bodywork. Although generally I pay for that.

jason
 


jasond said:
I barter with my hair stylist. And once in a while trade for bodywork. Although generally I pay for that.

jason

Me too.
Also bartered for my wedding photography!
 


I don't barter. I just find more respect for the work comes with an exchange of money. I did trade for massage but after some sessions that weren't effective I ended it and go elsewhere for different work.

My hair/facial person wanted to barter but I don't like feeling committed to go to someone if I don't want to. It's just my committment phobia. :lol:
 


P.S. I don't trade for bodywork.

EM I hope you find that barter is a good source of cash referrals. I have not found that for me -- just more people who want to trade. But then like I said I am not into trading very much -- I am very selective.

I schedule my trade folks whenever they want to come in, including prime hours. It's what works for me.
 


I also don't barter. I prefer the simplicity of cash transactions. If I value something, I'm willing to pay for it. And when people receive my bodywork, I prefer cash that I can spend anywhere, rather than a credit with one specific person for one specific service.

I respect those of you who like to barter; it's just not my thing.
 


I dont trade for bodywork, when it comes to that I cherish being a real paying client, and to be treated like one!

I do, however, enjoy bartering for luxuries that I dont usually shell out the money for.

My most ongoing trade is hair and beauty supplies from one of my best clients. I am constantly changing color and cut, and have vowed to never pick up tweezers again, and I'm a product junkie at heart (I buy the cheap stuff, but its no BedHed or Joico).
I trade for profesisonal signs and banners, gorgeous handmade jewelry, expensive makeup and this spring I'm trading for laser teeth whitening, something I would NEVER spend that kind of money on - but a few home visits for the dentist and her hubby and I'm taken care of. Gotta love it.
 


I do barter. It is a great way to get some items that one may not have the cash layout for at that time, or just a good way to do business in general if both parties treat each other with respect.

So far I have bartered with my hair stylist, Rolfing sessions, a logo and corporate identity, feng shui of the office, cabinet building, picture framing, martial arts training, acupuncture, dental work and have in the works a local diner owner who is interested in bartering for a few free meals (YUM!).

There are probably more things I have bartered for over the years, but these are the things that come to mind today.


I'd love to barter for an i-pod, but haven't found anyone for that yet. :)
 


I barter for massage, but mostly with friends who I like to hang out with anyway. We get to spend time together and get massages. It's pretty cool.

I also bartered for food at a nice massageplanete. The food was more expensive than I would usually eat (on a regular basis at least), and they always had good live music and outdoor seating. I'd massage the owner twice a month (she had been my client when I was a student, and she LOVED me), and hubby and I would get one nice meal out per week. OR I could have lunch myself there almost every day. Also, she wasn't a real stickler about the exchange. I could pretty much eat there whenever I wanted and she would get more massages to cover it.

Ahhh...I liked that. Wish I had something like that now, too. The food was GOOD!
 


I'm definitely selective, and don't barter if I get bad vibes. But with a tight budget, it's more likely I will enjoy more bodywork via trading with a few close LMT friends. It's more likely my daughter will get private voice lessons. It's more likely I'll have help with house cleaning and office cleaning.

As I said though, I'm careful with whom I commit my time and I wouldn't hesitate to refuse future barter with someone who didn't follow through the way expected (as in poor bodywork or other services).

And while it is true that some people don't hold bartering in the same light as cash exchange, some of us DO hold it - AS importantly. Barter is the original method of currency. It's worked for millennia, and still does when approached from the right place.

Certainly to each his/her own! ;)
 


Question (and if this needs to be a new thread, let me know)

Say I want to barter with someone who's hourly wage is less than mine. Like I want to get some housecleaning. Do you do $ per $, or hour per hour?

A couple of you have mentioned trading for housecleaning. Can you give details of how your barter works? (My husband and I are disagreeing about how it *should* work and I wouldn't want to be demanding something unfair right off the bat.)

I think it should be $ for $. If she charges $20/hr and I charge $65, so about 3.25 hours of housekeeping equals one hour of massage. Hubby thinks it should be hour per hour, which just doesn't seem right to me. But is it? When I pointed out to him that if she did 4 hours of housekeeping in one week, I'd then owe her 4 hours of massage in that week...he agreed that didn't seem right either, but wasn't willing to agree on the $ per $ thing either.

Thoughts?
 


shivashiva said:
Question (and if this needs to be a new thread, let me know)

Say I want to barter with someone who's hourly wage is less than mine. Like I want to get some housecleaning. Do you do $ per $, or hour per hour?

A couple of you have mentioned trading for housecleaning. Can you give details of how your barter works? (My husband and I are disagreeing about how it *should* work and I wouldn't want to be demanding something unfair right off the bat.)

I think it should be $ for $. If she charges $20/hr and I charge $65, so about 3.25 hours of housekeeping equals one hour of massage. Hubby thinks it should be hour per hour, which just doesn't seem right to me. But is it? When I pointed out to him that if she did 4 hours of housekeeping in one week, I'd then owe her 4 hours of massage in that week...he agreed that didn't seem right either, but wasn't willing to agree on the $ per $ thing either.

Thoughts?

I'd think $ for $, especially in a case of a serious difference in the rates.
 


I do it based on value, with some wiggle room: my guitar teacher charges $25 per half hour lesson. He gets one massage for every three lessons. Trail rides at the barn are $35. Two +/- trail rides is good for one massage.

I have tp agree with EH that both parties must feel as if they are getting a good bargain. In my case, I would not be able to afford to do either of these activities if I had to pay cash, and due to my practice being fairly new, I have the space in my schedule.
 


I try to barter $ for $ when possible, and if it has to be that someone gets the short end of the stick, I'd rather it be me than the person I am bartering with, so I barter "in their favor" when I come across a situation like this.
 


Thanks for the replies! They jive with my gut feeling as well.

Each situation will be different and both parties must be happy. I'd based it on $ per $, but also leave some wiggle room for both parties to be happy. And I'd definitely want the barter to be in their favor if it had to be in someone's.

I'd love to have some help with the housekeeping! That's probably the thing I hate the most. Now to find someone interested in such a trade.
 


I'm amazed this thread was put up because I've been thinking about this ALL WEEK! :lol:

I barter with a couple of people, but it's for hair, massage and energywork.
I want to barter for a few select things with select people but don't know how to get that word out.

For example, I need a house cleaner and an accountant. But I don't want to join a bartering group. A friend of mine is in one of those and her whole week is always full of barters.
 
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    ๐Ÿ’†โ€โ™€๐Ÿ’–WooHoo Wed๐Ÿ’– Ultimate destination for Asian massages๐ŸŽ‰ Two fab spots: Richmond Hill & Oakvilleโœจ Your passport to paradise with 9 enchanting girls fr China, HK, Japan & Korea โ€” ๐Ÿ†•Akino, Cindy, Coco, Luna, Amber, JPN Yui, Cici, Jasmine & Lucyโ€” ready to pamper you๐ŸŽ๐Ÿ Ring us ๐Ÿ“ž647-695-6354 or text us ๐Ÿ“ฑ647-578-8169โœจ 160 East Beaver Cr., Unit 12, RichmondHill ๐Ÿ’ฐWhere Eastern charm meets Western comfort - your bliss awaits๐Ÿ™Œ
  33. luckywellness:
    Lucky Wellness Center 4379721888 295 Eglinton Ave E,Unit 7,Mississauga We had two girls today, Niko and Kiki. They were both young, pretty and cute. The massage and back massage were great.
  34. AliceSpa:
    WEDNESDAY at ๐—”๐—Ÿ๐—œ๐—–๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—” 416-298-0898, 4915 Steeles Ave. E, Scarborough 3 very nice girls here today. Open 10am to 9pm: APPLE: from Hong Kong, very small body, 5' 100Lbs, petite with natural C Cups, small waist, pretty baby face, smooth skin, very clean. Shaved tight Pu**y, strong professional massage. Available FS bbbj cim cof rim. BEBE is a young slim Vietnamese girl with a beauty face
  35. Nu spring spa888:
    ๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒนsexy hot Philippine ๐Ÿ’– ๐Ÿ’– Malaysia ๐Ÿ’– ๐Ÿ’– Korean girls ๐Ÿ‘working at Nu spring spaโ˜Ž๏ธ416-669-8508๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน๐ŸŒน
  36. wilson holistic centre:
    ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•Beautiful Korean girl working at 382 Wilson Ave ๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’•โ˜Ž๏ธโ˜Ž๏ธ416-840-0071โค๏ธโค๏ธ
  37. Lilyspa1:
    Lily Spa :๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’• Wednesday Schedule ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ณKajal 23, Punjabi girl ๐Ÿ˜ˆGFE & bbbj โค๏ธโค๏ธElena ( Latino ) Big Nature Boobs & SuSu ( Asian )Slim , ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜Porn Service ๐Ÿ”ฅDuo ๐Ÿ”ฅ,โ˜Ž๏ธ 6475318288
  38. Jennyโ€™s Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’JENNYโ€™S SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…5170 DUNDAS STREET WESTโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒETOBICOKE ONTARIO M9A 1C4๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ( 647-893-5196)โ˜Ž๏ธCall or Text โ˜Ž๏ธ( 437-888-3759)โ˜Ž๏ธCall Only (ETOBICOKE) OPEN 10am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…GRAND OPENING๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅEXCELLENT MASSAGE + SERVICE QUEENS NOW AVAILABLE AT JENNYโ€™S SPA FOR ALL YOUR MASSAGE AND SPECIAL EXTRA NEEDS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ”ฅโค๏ธ๐Ÿ‘Œ ๐Ÿ”ฅTWO BEAUTIFUL NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS EVERYDAY๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ’ฏREAL PICTURES OF ATTENDANTS๐Ÿ’ฏ ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹Limited Time Special Promotion๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ’‹ โœ…๐Ÿ’ฆ30 Minutes Nude Mass
  39. Moneylee:
    Full season wellness center: Young girl Big-breasted big big butts Aris , Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Rose,Young girl big breasted beautiful buttocks charming temperament big boobs Julia ,Young beautiful face sexy body and good deep massage maggie,Enchanting sexy petite deep massage Mary. ๐Ÿ  2560 Shepard ave Mississauga unit 1 โ˜Ž๏ธ 4379857899 ๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘…๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿ‘„๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿˆต๏ธ๐Ÿฆต๐Ÿฆต
  40. Golden Flower Spa:
  41. BlueXado Therapy & Spa:
  42. Pink Flower Spa:
  43. Annie Spa:
    ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ANNIE SPA๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ โœ…7-1001 SANDHURST CIRCLEโœ… ๐Ÿ‘ŒSCARBOROUGH ON M1V 1Z6๐Ÿ‘Œ โ˜Ž๏ธ (647) 891-9688โ˜Ž๏ธ โ˜Ž๏ธ (416) 291-8879โ˜Ž๏ธ (FINCH & MCCOWAN) OPEN 9:30am to 9pm MONDAY to SUNDAY ๐Ÿ”ฅโœ…NEW MANAGEMENT๐Ÿ’ฏNEW GIRLS๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ ๐Ÿ”ฅGORGEOUS NEW YOUNG ASIAN GIRLS - TODAYโ€™s ROSTER INCLUDES: ๐Ÿ”ฅ Feifei๐Ÿ˜˜Our new Taiwanese beauty Feifei specializes in creating an intimate and deeply relaxing massage experience tailored to your desires. Her soft, skilled hands glide effortlessly, easing tension and awakening your senses
  44. HollywoodSpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŽญ๐—›๐—ข๐—Ÿ๐—Ÿ๐—ฌ๐—ช๐—ข๐—ข๐—— ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”๐ŸŽญ, 4578 Yonge St, Unit 100, North York, ON: NICOLE & SISI. โ˜Ž๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿฒ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฎ-๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฑ๐Ÿฐโ˜Ž NICOLE is petite, slim and very pretty, with C Cups , long hair & a slim waist. She has nice massage and great services. SISI is a sweet slim beauty, 5โ€™2โ€, with a beauty ass, excellent massage, and amazing services. Come and see why she is so popular. When you visit ๐ŸŽญHollywood
  45. HolidaySpa:
    Wednesday at ๐ŸŒด๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒ…๐“—๐“ธ๐“ต๐“ฒ๐“ญ๐“ช๐”‚ ๐“ข๐“น๐“ช๐ŸŒ…๐Ÿ˜Ž๐ŸŒด3517 Kennedy Rd, Unit 4, Scarborough โ˜Ž๏ธ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿญ๐Ÿญ๐Ÿต๐Ÿตโ˜Ž๏ธ: EMILY, KIKI & CINDY. EMILY is a VERY tiny petite SPINNER superstar of the highest quality. Emily has a pretty face, natural A Cups, slim waist, and a lovely spinner bottom, topped off with the very best of services. Kiki is very attractive, young, about 5โ€™4โ€ and 110 Lbs., slim with a banging body.
  46. wonderspa:
    ๐ŸŒบ๐ŸŒบWonder spa,(9421Jane st unit127)call416-5000-800โ˜Ž๏ธbest massage in vaughan,Wednesday RMT available,๐Ÿ’„sexy very young girl Joey natural c cup,very good looking nice body slide,really popular ๐ŸŽlong hair Q Lucy good strong to relax oil massage, Relieve pain and remove stress,more experience,young very beautiful new girl Cici, back walk ,body slide,amazing the end,give you warm and comfortable time must try๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿ”ฅ
  47. SugarLoveSpa:
    Wednesday at โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’™ ๐Ÿ’œโŽ๐—ฆ๐—จ๐—š๐—”๐—ฅ ๐—Ÿ๐—ข๐—ฉ๐—˜ ๐—ฆ๐—ฃ๐—”โŽ ๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’˜: LISA, LUNA, SUSAN & TIFFANY. 1270 Finch Ave W (at Keele St), Unit 18. North York, ON โ˜Ž ๐Ÿฐ๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿณ-๐Ÿฏ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿฑ-๐Ÿฎ๐Ÿฒ๐Ÿด๐Ÿด โ˜Ž LISA is a cute & petite Thai/Chinese mixed beauty with decent massage skills and liberal services. LUNA is a slim, VERY PETITE and capable Vietnamese beauty, nice natural 34C Cups. Luna can do everything. SUSAN is small, slim
  48. bnwellness_wilson:
    We have 4 young girls are working today, young sweet Mia 25โ€™s with curve body and pretty Ella, fun Vicky with curve body 25โ€™s and flirty GFE Lina are providing deep tissue massage, pls call 4163985777 book appointment and walk in always welcome,back entrance and parking available, 350 Wilson Ave North York
  49. Soul Relax Spa:
    โœจ Looking for a relaxing escape? โœ… Click Here Meet๐ŸŒธTina๐ŸŒธJessica๐ŸŒธAlettaCall us today for the best treatment and service experience. Click on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates ! Call now โ˜Ž 289 - 298 - 5662โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate relaxation awaits! โœจ
  50. Golden Sunshine Spa:
    โœจClick on our Username and FOLLOW US for updates and special services ! โœ… Click Here Today๐ŸŒธAkame๐ŸŒธChristina๐ŸŒธXuka๐ŸŒธMonika๐ŸŒธDanna Call us โ˜Ž 905 - 265 - 2158โ˜Ž๏ธ Your ultimate service awaits! โœจ
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